HISTORICAL REFERENCE ABOUT KILLING PRISONERS

24 March 2003 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Perhaps it would do well to remember the events during the Texas-Mexico war in the 1840's. Fannin and his men were captured by the Mexican forces and were then executed near Goliad, Texas.... some 300+ (look it up). Then, at the Alamo, Santa Anna ordered all prisoners executed and the bodies burned. Turned out to be a fatal mistake. Public opinion was galvanized against Mexico and volunteers poured in to fight.

Iraq has actually assured it's destruction with recent events. I know of liberals personally who are outraged at the execution of U.S. prisoners of war. Others here can probably post additional historical references to killing of prisoners (Nazi Germany) and the consequences of that action.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

No further comment.

[CatoRenasci]

I'm no fan of the Nazis, but in general, the Germans observed the Geneva Convention in their treatment of British and American POWs. Of course, they did not do so with Russian and Polish POWs, who were often executed or used for slave labor. I'm not sure about the French POWs from 1940.

The Japanese brutally mistreated allied prisoners, and some of them hung for it after the war. I knew a survivor of the Bataan Death March, the poor man was never the same, and had not a kind word for the Nips (as he called them).

[Lael]

Perhaps it would do well to remember the events during the Texas-Mexico war in the 1840's.

1836...the year Patterson Colt Revolvers were first produced in that city, founded by Alexander Hamilton as an Industrial Bastion on the Great Falls of the Pasaic River. (LOADED with Islamics today!!)

The Founding Fathers [aka Dead White Guys] must be rolling around in their graves!!!

[TXnMA]

Remember the Alamo!

Remember Goliad!

(Texian battlecry at the Batle of San Jacinto -- Texas' defeat of Mexico's Santa Ana.)

[DuncanWaring]

"Me no Alamo! ... Me no Goliad"

(Mexican soldiers being taken prisoner at the Battle of San Jacinto)

[wildbill]

Actually the Goliad massacre of prisoners occurred during the Texas War for Independence.

Unfortunately, Spain brought a long history of executing prisoners into Mexico along with their bloody conquest.

Mexicans took up the practice and continued it well into their "final" Revolution between 1910 and 1920.

[wildbill]

I just thought of a more apt reference to the killing of prisoners in a Mid Eastern context. In 1255, Hulugu Khan, a grandson of Genghis, sacked Baghdad and reportedly built a pyramid of 70,000 skulls of prisoners.

Next up circa 1355 was Timur-i-leng (Timur the lame, anglicized to Tammerlane)who was a Turk converted to the Muslim faith.

I won't go so far as to say it is part of a racial ethos of the area, but it is NOT an unusual practice.

[Billthedrill]

In 1255, Hulugu Khan, a grandson of Genghis, sacked Baghdad and reportedly built a pyramid of 70,000 skulls of prisoners.

Yes, but he did some bad things as well.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Yes, but he did some bad things as well.

Can't help but laugh at that one.

[Billthedrill]

John, you're new here, so I'll be gentle. If you are implying that I have never born arms in war you are mistaken.