To: backhoe
Look my post was really about the Brazilian incident. However if you want to argue that Nazism is not a right wing ideology...it is a fact that it is. I did not say anything about republicans. Again Nazis were in 1930s and 1940s Europe. There were no republicans there. The left wing groups in Nazi Germany the communists and socialists were killed and imprisoned by Hitler they were his biggest enemies. That is a historical fact. I'm not labeling all right wingers as Nazis. It just happens to be the fact that Nazis are right wingers. The same that Lenin and Stalin were left wingers. So are socialists and communists. Does not mean that all left wingers are socialists and communists. As far as the nationalization and confiscation of property. You're really thinking in terms of economics. Not everybody in the right is for the free enterprise system. The same that not everybody in the left is for the confiscation of all private property.
So again my post was about the use of contradictory terms by the Olavo fellow. And by the way...there are militia that are left wingers the same that there are militia people that are Nazis (I've met a few).
Ultimately these terms left and right need to be used in context.
To: Maimonides
Communists also despise Trotskyites. Does that make Trotskyites right-wingers?
Your entire argument rests on the idea that A) Communism is left-wing (true), B) Hitler hated Communists (true), therefore C) Hitler was not left-wing (false). This presumes that the left wing is always united and never fights among themselves.
The only part about Nazism that was "right-wing" was the Nationalist part. The part of the left wing that survived World War II was the INTERnationalist Socialist Worker's Party.
If your entire definition of left wing vs. right wing rests solely on distinctions between nationalism vs. internationalism, then you might be able to make a case. Unfortunately, while that -is- true to a -small- extent, that is not the -primary- definition held to by 99% of the population. Most people perceive the left-right spectrum to range from socialism on the left to capitalism on the right. That puts Hitler firmly on the Left.
Qwinn
23 posted on
04/06/2004 2:44:18 AM PDT by
Qwinn
To: Maimonides
"...Does not mean that all left wingers are socialists and communists...."
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In my book, yes, it most surely does.
The democratic party of the U.S. are all socialist left wingers.
28 posted on
04/25/2004 4:10:09 PM PDT by
DefCon
To: Maimonides; backhoe
#20
You're out of your depth here.. Backhoes post is documented and is general knowledge and can be researche easily. As long as you are careful to read non socialist pap. By the way Joseph McCarthy was a true american hero. No doubt you are behind the times on the new information exposeing his persecutors payed directly and indirectly by Uncle Joe Stalin too.
40 posted on
04/25/2004 5:13:35 PM PDT by
hosepipe
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