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Sgt. Held in Attack Feared Persecution
AP | 3/23/03

Posted on 03/23/2003 10:14:52 PM PST by kattracks

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To: martin_fierro
Isn't the DC sniper suspected in a "friendly fire" incident from the first Gulf War?
41 posted on 03/23/2003 11:14:17 PM PST by weegee (McCarthy was right, Fight The Red Menace)
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To: Frances_Marion
I think they said he was missing 4 grenades.
42 posted on 03/23/2003 11:14:45 PM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Joe 6-pack; Lion's Cub
Remember the Portland Cell/Ujaama case up in the northwest? These folsk may or may not be related since the name may be common but the name "Bilal" struck a bell:

Court papers identified the six as Battle, Patrice Lumumba Ford, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal, Habis Abdullah al Saoub and October Martinique Lewis, the ex-wife of Battle.

The Bilals here are brothers with American parents who live in Saudi Arabia. This group has connections to the Black Panthers, the Taliban, and Hamas. Battle was also Army as I recall.

43 posted on 03/23/2003 11:24:46 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
A woman who said she is Akbar's mother, Quran Bilal, told The Tennessean of Nashville that she was concerned her son might have been accused because he is a Muslim, adding he was not allowed to participate in the first Gulf War because of his religion.

P.S. I think the mother is a liar. And since, based even on the little info in this article, it sounds like mother and son have the same mentality (he's innocent as a newborn babe), I wouldn't trust her to give me the correct time of day.

I also heard a story on TV about the suspect's brother quitting the army after 911, based on religious reasons. Have you heard that story?

There is also some question, as to whether this guy was leading a double life in the army: appatrently his comrades knew him as Cools, not Akbar. One story I read during the past 24 hours, referred to his "conversion," a la John Muhammad. I suspect that writer may have been seeking to square the story, according to which Akbar was known by a Moslem and by a non-Moslem name.

Have you ever heard of American G.I.'s being refused participation in Gulf War I, based on their religion?

44 posted on 03/23/2003 11:35:16 PM PST by mrustow
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To: piasa
One of the reasons I believe these guys favor the same names, is to make it difficult for non-Muslims to ID them. You need a DNA/name pairing for each guy.
45 posted on 03/23/2003 11:37:28 PM PST by mrustow
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To: kattracks
she was concerned her son might have been accused because he is a Muslim, adding he was not allowed to participate in the first Gulf War because of his religion.

Sound like they were right the first time.

P.C. use to just cost us money, now it's costing lives. ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE!

If 911 was caused by a bunch of middle aged Catholic blondes it would be my duty as a citizen to undergo extra scrutiny. Instead they let Muslim looking young men walk through airport security while they are busy going through my 9 year olds backpack!!!!!!!!!

GRRRRRRR! We need public policy to mess with commmon sense.

46 posted on 03/23/2003 11:49:03 PM PST by lizma (fc)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I knew when the press failed to announce the name of this scumbag right away that he was probably muslim. It was the same way with the reporting of countless of other cases like the DC sniper and that "Venezuelan" who tried bring explosives aboard an airplane.
47 posted on 03/24/2003 12:06:42 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: kattracks
``He wouldn't try to take nobody's life,'' she said. ``He's not like that. He said the only thing he was going out there to do was blow up the bridges.''


Yeah, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Golden Gate Bridge, the George Washington Bridge,...
48 posted on 03/24/2003 12:12:36 AM PST by Clink
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To: kattracks
Not to hard to conclude that the excuses would by flying soon. Here's what I predicted on 3/23--I'm sure most of you predicted the same thing:

I knew this was going to happen. If you get down to it, he was probably being harrassed on a daily basis, ostracized, and not promoted because of his race and faith. (/sarcasm)

49 posted on 03/24/2003 12:40:46 AM PST by beaversmom (After the Axis of Evil on to the Axis of Weasels)
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To: kattracks
This is an excerpt from an e-mail a friend sent me:

But the big thing to be seen is how this is IDENTICAL IN EVERY RESPECT TO SEPTEMBER 11TH. Some of the 9/11 hijackers were spotted as threats by Logan airport security, but the people who spotted them knew that--because of corrupt liberalism--any use of common sense would GET THEM FIRED. Same with the military in the last few days--if anything, the fact that this guy was a Muslim made it impossible for his superiors to take effective action against him when he started acting "weird." That young man who died in the grenade attack died because of liberalism. The Left and Death--Perfect Together.

50 posted on 03/24/2003 12:49:53 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: lizma
Yikes, Mess = mesh.
51 posted on 03/24/2003 12:59:52 AM PST by lizma (fc)
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52 posted on 03/24/2003 1:22:00 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: kattracks

This is Bullsh!t. It's one more time that blacks are being let off easy for there unlawfulness, in this case, murder. Time and time again, black hoodlums can commit horrendous crimes in America and the story either disappears or it is explained away by saying that all black Americans are victims. I, personally, am sick and tired of this
Bullsh!t. God Bless America and all of our troops and our President, George W. Bush.
53 posted on 03/24/2003 1:28:46 AM PST by rambo316
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To: kattracks
A$$hole Akbar should have been hanged 24 hours ago. That's how you boost morale.
54 posted on 03/24/2003 4:19:30 AM PST by dennisw
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To: kattracks
What a CROCK!! Persecution my a*s!!
55 posted on 03/24/2003 4:23:44 AM PST by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: piasa; Grampa Dave
Ping to Grampa Dave. Any information on "Bilal," either as an individual name or as the name of a group (Bilal Islamic Center, somewhere in So. Cal.)? Is this al Fuqra or something else?
56 posted on 03/24/2003 4:28:32 AM PST by livius
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To: JDGreen123
How did he get that middle name, Fidel?

That was first thought, too. From one anti-American focus to another.
57 posted on 03/24/2003 4:30:03 AM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: livius
Ping to Grampa Dave. Any information on "Bilal," either as an individual name or as the name of a group (Bilal Islamic Center, somewhere in So. Cal.)? Is this al Fuqra or something else?

Bilal Islamic Center
4016 S. Central Av.
L.A., CA 90011
Tel: (323) 233-7274
Fax: 233-9739

See post #40.

-archy-/-

58 posted on 03/24/2003 7:58:48 AM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Wes Allison of the St. Pete Times paper is embedded with the 101. There's a very lengthy story in today's edition. I just got on line. I believe their url is sptimes.com. Check it out. It's another first hand account.

The guy just converted to islam (big surprise). Now we need to know who converted him and "why"? Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. Due to akbar's odd behavior, somebody hiding behind cleric robes appears to have used brainwashing techniques.

59 posted on 03/24/2003 8:09:57 AM PST by floriduh voter ("Pound that Rock" John Gruden, Super Bowl Night 2003)
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To: Joe 6-pack
The Baton Rouge connection with AKBAR is just among one curious coincidence with John MOHAMMED (D.C. sniper), former U.S. Army Engineer, alleged Desert Storm fragger, etc., who also had his BR connections. I'll do some digging down here and see if these two were in the same schools or had any other previous associations...

There's another FReepthread with some interesting info on AKBAR, particularly his left coast connections, *here*.

60 posted on 03/24/2003 8:43:44 AM PST by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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