[supercat]

To be fair, an audio clip in which a liberal makes a fool of herself is not the best indictment of the liberal position. Still enjoyed hearing it, though.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well what do you expect out of a liberal (at least that flavor of liberal). Lots of bromides, but no real reasoning. If there is some "initiative" besides war that could possibly get Saddam and his merry men of mayhem out of the picture, I'm sure Dubya would have vastly preferred it to Desert Storm II. But nobody has proposed something that would be expected to work. Dubya's not a hawk for the sake of being a hawk.