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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 3-LIVE THREAD***
FreeRepublic - Day 2 ^ | 212 March 2003 | An.American.Expatriate/null and void

Posted on 03/21/2003 9:19:52 PM PST by null and void

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To: woodyinscc
The Dems are reaching for the brass ring and are a foot short

A foot short and on the wrong side of the merry-go-round.

4,541 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:08 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
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To: ztiworoh
Scud was first deployed by the Soviets in the mid-1960s. The missile was originally designed to carry a 100-kiloton nuclear warhead or a 2,000 pound conventional warhead, with ranges from 100 to 180 miles. Its principal threat was its warhead potential to hold chemical or biological agents.

It is directly descended from the German V-2. Its warhead is permanently attached to the missile body and thus has a high velocity impact. The first combat use of the Scud occurred in 1973 in the Arab-Israeli Yom Kippur War. It was later used in the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s.

"The Iraqis modified Scuds for greater range, largely by reducing warhead weight, enlarging their fuel tanks and burning all of the fuel during the early phase of flight (rather than continuously). Such a Scud therefore came down with a relatively heavy warhead and a heavy motor, separated by the light empty fuel tank. It was structurally unstable and often broke up in the upper atmosphere. That further reduced its already poor accuracy, but it also made the missile difficult to intercept, since its flight path was unpredictable.

The Iraqis had four versions: Scud itself (180-km range), longer-range Scud (half warhead weight, extra range attained by burning all propellant immediately rather than steadily through the flight of the missile), Al Hussein (650-km, attained by reducing warhead weight to 250 kg and increasing the fuel load by 15 percent), and Al Abbas (800-km, achieved by reducing warhead weight to 125 kg, with 30 percent more fuel). Al Abbas could be fired only from static launchers; all of the others could be fired from mobile or static sites. Only the original Scud and the minimally modified version were particularly succesful."

From: "Desert Victory - The War for Kuwait" by Norman Friedman, Naval Institute Press, 1991:

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While there is uncertainty over the total number of Scuds fired during the war, one study done by General Merrill McPeak, Chief of Staff, U.S. Air Force,("The Air campaign: Part of the Combined Arms Operations," Dept. of Air Force, 1991) is considered the most reliable.

McPeak's data, drawn from a variety of coalition sources, indicates that between January 18 and February 26, 1991, 40 Scuds were launched against Israel and 46 against Saudi Arabia.



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"Efforts by Coalition air forces to suppress Iraqi launches of Scud misiles against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and other Gulf nations during Desert Storm ran into many of the same problems evident in the case of the Iraqi's nuclear weapons program. Key portions of the target set--notably the presurveyed launch sites and hiding places used by the mobile launchers--were not identified before 17 January 1991, and, even in the face of intense efforts to find and destroy them, the mobile launchers proved remarkably elusive and survivable. Although Iraq's average weekly launch rate of modified Scuds during Desert Storm (14.7 launches per week) was lower than it had been during the 1988 "war of the cities," and while launch rates generally declined over the course of the Gulf War, the actual destruction of any Iraqi mobile launchers by fixed-wing Coalition aircraft remains impossible to confirm. Coalition aircrews reported destroying around eighty mobile launchers; another score or so were claimed by special operations forces. Most of these reports undoubtedly stemmed from attacks that did destroy objects found in the Scud launch areas. But most, if not all, of the objects involved now appear to have been decoys, vehicles such as tanker trucks that had infrared and radar signatures impossible to distinguish from those of mobile launchers and their associated support vehicles, and other objects unfortunate enough to provide "Scud-like" signatures.

Over the 43 days of Desert Storm, roughly 1,500 strikes were carried out against targets associated with Iraqi ballistic missile capabilities.

Over eighty percent of the Scud launches during Desert Storm occurred at night. Even an F-15E orbiting near a fleeting target the size of a MAZ-543 mobile launcher had little chance of identifying and acquiring the vehicle before it reached a "hide" site. The clearest evidence of this can be drawn from the forty-two occasions on which Scud launches were visually observed by orbiting strike aircraft. In only eight of these cases were aircrews of strike aircraft able to visually acquire the target sufficiently to deliver ordnance. Even allowing for the long distances at which a Scud launch could be seen at night, aircraft such as F-15E and the FLIR-equipped F-16L experienced fundamental sensor limitations that rendered the probability of finding Iraqi mobile launchers extremely low--even when the launch point could be localized into a relatively small area in near real time by either aircrew visual sightings or offboard sensors providing coordinates."

From: "Gulf War Air Power Survey Summary Report" by Thomas A. Keaney and Eliot A. Cohen, 1993

4,542 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:32 PM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Petronski
Nope, from February 22, 2003.
4,543 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:37 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: gop212
Walken as frog... PRICELESS!
4,544 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:42 PM PST by Extremist
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To: Petronski
its a rerun from a few weeks ago...the continental is near the beginning and is a riot if you like walken
4,545 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:43 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Petronski
Nope Repeat, thanks to my handy digital cable guide
4,546 posted on 03/22/2003 8:32:59 PM PST by ztiworoh
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To: Jackie-O
Threads got so long, was impossible to catch up.

LOL .. I'm trying to .. only 100 more posts to go

4,547 posted on 03/22/2003 8:33:21 PM PST by Mo1 (Patriots Rally for America V: Liberty Weekend in Washington DC Sunday March 23)
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To: cajungirl
rotflmao agree with ya....they are drinking the kool aid
4,548 posted on 03/22/2003 8:33:29 PM PST by texxie (Don't Mess With Texas!!!)
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To: All
These BBC reports of the troops meeting stiff resistance in many areas are making me wish we had the 4th moving south as originally planned...

Those Turks better start praying if this goes badly...
4,550 posted on 03/22/2003 8:34:01 PM PST by US_Pride
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To: RummyChick
You are right. Stuart Ramsey is a Sky News reporter embedded there. We have an embedded American journalist there, too, I think.

Went back to ~ #3564 to find: There's a thread on FR that the soldier they found in the bunker is a Black Muslim and it's a criminal investigation - per CBS news on television. FoxNews mentioned the Muslim connection a hundred or so posts later. Frank Gaffney then emphasized the threat. Hmm.

I like the "resentment" motive better.

4,551 posted on 03/22/2003 8:34:14 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/869837/posts: YES, "in your name": USNR educates peaceniks.)
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To: Extremist
Thats a real good idea, my buddy does that for me when I'm over his house. Real nice gesture.
4,552 posted on 03/22/2003 8:34:23 PM PST by muslims=borg (Outstanding Red Team...Outstanding....I'll get ya a case of beer for that one........)
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To: muslims=borg
get blue ones to spit in and red ones to drink out of :)
4,553 posted on 03/22/2003 8:34:26 PM PST by texxie (Don't Mess With Texas!!!)
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To: Extremist
That was great!!!!
4,554 posted on 03/22/2003 8:34:54 PM PST by gop212
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To: texxie
Frere Jacques, Frere Jacques
Shut your hole!

THAT would be a great tagline.
4,555 posted on 03/22/2003 8:35:15 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: bbourdon
The 4th is ready to go too. Guys sitting around on 96 hour call up itching to go...
4,556 posted on 03/22/2003 8:35:25 PM PST by SoldiersGirl
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To: SoldiersGirl
Yeah I was at disney today and so many of the girls my age look so trashy (Im 17), I mean, I in no way find tattoos and peiercings to be attractive. Britney Spears and her ilk look like trailer trash to me; I'd rather have a girl who I can discuss intelligent topics with anf who has a vocablary that doesnt consist of the lyrics to Eminem's last CD. I feel very bad for my generation sometimes...
4,557 posted on 03/22/2003 8:35:36 PM PST by ztiworoh
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To: All
Maya Rudolph... ohhh baby....
4,559 posted on 03/22/2003 8:35:55 PM PST by killjoy
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To: Carney Asada
Love your handle...being a New Mexican, I even know what it is!
4,560 posted on 03/22/2003 8:36:09 PM PST by greyfoxx39
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