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Turkey Moves 1,000 Soldiers Into N. Iraq
AP | 3/21/03 | SUZAN FRASER

Posted on 03/21/2003 3:34:49 PM PST by kattracks

Turkey Moves 1,000 Soldiers Into N. Iraq

By SUZAN FRASER .c The Associated Press

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Turkey moved 1,000 soldiers into northern Iraq on Friday to beef up its forces there, a Turkish military official said. Turkey already maintains several thousand soldiers backed by a few dozen tanks in northern Iraq to chase Turkish Kurdish guerrillas. Turkey is also shifting some 5,000 soldiers to the border region, the military official said, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.

The Turkish foreign minister said Friday his nation was determined to send its troops over the border into northern Iraq to contain a possible refugee flow and prevent any attempt by Iraqi Kurds to break away from Iraq.

Abdullah Gul's remarks came despite strong opposition in Washington to any unilateral move by Turkey into northern Iraq. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday: ``We don't see any need for any Turkish incursions into northern Iraq.''

But ``Turkish soldiers will go in,'' Gul told reporters on his return from a trip from Brussels.

Gul's statement came after Turkey agreed Friday to allow U.S. overflights for a war with Iraq, reversing an earlier decision to block Turkey's airspace because of a disagreement with the United States over a Turkish troop deployment.

Washington has warned that a Turkish incursion could lead to friendly fire incidents with U.S. forces. Iraqi Kurdish groups say the move could lead to clashes.

In Washington, a senior U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Turkey opened its airspace without any conditions attached, adding that the U.S. administration continued to discuss the issue of Turkish troops separately.

Turkey's Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul also said Turkish and U.S. officials would continue negotiations.

Turkey has frequently sent soldiers into northern Iraq to chase Kurdish rebels belonging to the Kurdistan Workers Party, or PKK, which fought a 15-year battle for autonomy from Turkey.

Gul said Turkey wanted to prevent Iraq's breakup and to contain a possible refugee flow within Iraq's borders.

``Turkey's Iraq policy is ... Iraq's territorial integrity, that Iraq's resources are shared by the whole population ... that a refugee flow is contained within Iraq,'' Gul said.

``Turkey has no designs whatsoever on Iraq's territory. Turkey will take measures in line with these aims,'' he said.

Turkey fears that Iraq could fragment during a war, leading Iraqi Kurds to declare independence, which could encourage Turkish Kurdish rebels.

Turkey's parliament voted Thursday to allow the United States to use the airspace, a measure that would allow strike aircraft on carriers in the Mediterranean to fly more directly into Iraq.

The resolution passed by parliament would also allow Turkey to move its own forces into northern Iraq.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Comment #201 Removed by Moderator

To: Amerigomag
>> Actually their closer to <5%.

According to Saddam's census. Those are adulterated.

I don't care if you dispute it.. Really doesn't matter.
202 posted on 03/21/2003 6:11:08 PM PST by a_Turk (After all the jacks are in their boxes, and the clowns have all gone to bed..)
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To: JackRyanCIA
>> Then you can tell fairy tales about yourself and impress everyone.

I have work to do. I'm on a mission from God ;)
203 posted on 03/21/2003 6:12:39 PM PST by a_Turk (After all the jacks are in their boxes, and the clowns have all gone to bed..)
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To: a_Turk
don't care if you dispute it.. Really doesn't matter.

Your right it doesn't matter.

They still would be subject to the tyranny of the majority in a non federal democracy even if their population appraoched 50%.

205 posted on 03/21/2003 6:18:52 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: a_Turk
Yeah, not trying to insult you, but he seems like a left-wing Greek in his politics.

Was he like, proof you guys were "modern" by the decadent EU standards?
206 posted on 03/21/2003 6:20:27 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: a_Turk
Again, back to the question.

How would you represent the Turkomen without federalizing the government along ethnic lines?

How would you protect them from the tyranny of the majority without giving them some form of strong, independent, governance within their ethnic enclave?

207 posted on 03/21/2003 6:22:50 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: BullDog108
Ignoe=Ignore
209 posted on 03/21/2003 6:24:49 PM PST by BullDog108 (TUCK FURKEY)
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To: kattracks
Seriously, If Turkey has had problems containing the national asperations of the Kurds who have been within their borders since the birth of the Turkish state, how in the hell do they believe that occupying Kurdish areas of Iraq, will be an improvement? I sympathise with the Turkish dilema,and respect the Turkish secular experiment, but the fact is that they are biting off way more than they can chew. Europe will shun them, this is a given, and America may not support them after this gambit. Turkey is going to face a now increased and hostile Kurdish population, insurection within and without, alone, without friend or ally.
211 posted on 03/21/2003 6:31:41 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: JackRyanCIA
LOL!
212 posted on 03/21/2003 6:31:58 PM PST by BullDog108 (TUCK FURKEY)
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To: Amerigomag
>> How would you protect them from the tyranny of the majority

Well, at first we were pushing for a constitution which did not mention ethnic groups at all.. But the US had already made their deal with some of the groups, and that didn't work.

We've got over 40 ethnic groups in Turkey. Nobody knows who is who. That is, unless you come out saying "I'm a Laz", or "I'm a Circassian.." And nobody cares.

We have Kurds in parliament right now. Nobody cares. They don't run on ethnic platforms. Those who do get hardly any votes. Even if they're Kurds.

But ethnic considerations explicitly built into a constitution and/or ethnic enclaves serve only to prevent bridges from being built. All that does is prevent stability and security, and makes for a loose structure which can break up at any time.
213 posted on 03/21/2003 6:37:18 PM PST by a_Turk (After all the jacks are in their boxes, and the clowns have all gone to bed..)
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To: a_Turk
Yes I appreciate your point but you aren't recognizing two obvious dilemas/ironys.

First, Iraq is not Turkey. There is deeply embedded ethnic hatred in Iraq which is not going to dissappear because Tommy Franks says it must.

Second, when Turkey faced this same dilema in the recent past the government simply imposed tyranny on the minority.

Last, with no personal resonsibility intended, the US is simply not going to allow the ethnic cleansing that was perpitrated by the Ottomans in the early 20th century and the current form of the Turkish government in the mid 20th century.

214 posted on 03/21/2003 6:55:16 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: nkycincinnatikid
I sympathise with the Turkish dilema

Don't

The Turks created their own dilema when they sided with the Germans in WWI and then compounded their problems when they attempted to cleanse the Kurds 30 years later.

They simply drove their vocal, Kurdish minority in Iraqi Kurdistan and now must face the consequences of their poor decisions.

The Turks would have been better served to attempt to meet the demands of their Kurdish minority when the Brits and the frogs forced them together after WWI.

215 posted on 03/21/2003 7:01:53 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: nkycincinnatikid
For the Kurds in Iraq the theme of unity can only build..unless someone comes to bludgeon them again.
Alot of Kurds had homes and business's in Kirkuk and Mosul.....some terrible retribution is in the offing as old accounts are settled.
It will be interesting to see if the U.S. understands how important this is to them....and to the Turks...who are afraid of the Kurds "Bonding" to the land again.
216 posted on 03/21/2003 7:03:10 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Maeve
"they will come out the final loser in Cyprus."

Yep. This will hurt their economy for years. Somebody better teach them how to play poker.
217 posted on 03/21/2003 7:04:15 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Amerigomag
What are you talking about? Everything you have just said after WWI is complete nonsense. Where did yoi learn history from?
218 posted on 03/21/2003 7:06:12 PM PST by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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To: Turk2
Why don't you give them North Carolina?

Why don't you give them some of YOUR country?

219 posted on 03/21/2003 7:06:40 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
This was a reply to someone whi suggested that. Its not your fight. Stay out of this.
220 posted on 03/21/2003 7:13:48 PM PST by Turk2 (Dulce bellum inexpertis)
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