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To: Servant of the Nine
For the next few decades we have the opportunity to build the first true World Empire. An Empire that has no enemies, because there is nothing outside it. Other superpowers will arise in time if we fail in this and they will punish us for our failure.

It is refreshing to see some honesty around here in terms of policy debate. When libertarians and paleos complain about neocon plans for empire, imperialism and colonialism they are greeted with derision because the new model of these things does not meet the traditional dictionary definition. Of course neocons have written articles about empire not being a dirty word and the virtues of colonialism but that doesn't stop some around here from denying the existence of this philosophy and current goals. It is kind of frustrating to argue a point about something that "doesn't" exist to the sparring partner.

Personally I do not support the idea of a global government run by the US or the UN, nor US empire or whatever it is called but at least it is finally there in black and white on FR. Thank you.

166 posted on 03/19/2003 12:00:31 PM PST by u-89
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To: u-89
Personally I do not support the idea of a global government run by the US or the UN, nor US empire or whatever it is called but at least it is finally there in black and white on FR.

I envision something like the relationship of France and Monaco. The US will run it's internal system and will run all the foreign policy and military policy for the world. What other nations want to do internally should not be our concern, as long as they are incapable of any external actions.

SO9

172 posted on 03/19/2003 12:07:49 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can Do anything we damned well please.)
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To: u-89; stainlessbanner; shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; Ff--150
Personally I'm getting a little sick and tired of the namecalling. Apparently if you dare step off the neocon Empire building train, you're anti-semitic. Let me state for the record, I am in 100% support of Israel (because of my Christian and Southern beliefs. And for the record, our side had a Jewish secretary of state and has the only Jewish military cemetary outside of the state of Israel.

Yes I said 'our side'. Because in my heart, it comes down to something I've seen here and throughout conservative groups a lot lately. It's regionalized. No one wants to admit it, no one cares to say it, but Washington was right in 1795. Different regions will never see eye to eye. Did I support President Bush when he first started talking about invasion? No. There has never been a formal declaration of war. Don't give me this crap about open authorization. The Constitution requires a formal declaration in Article I, Section 8. Not some pansy open check to do whatever the heck one man thinks should be the course

But war has started and I will (as I always have) support fully the men and women of these United States Armed Forces in their cause, for their success, and for their safe return home. But please quit shoving this world policeman, put a soldier in every port of the world because it's vital, imperialistic crap down our throats as conservatism. Because it's not. I don't know what the h#ll it is, but it's not what most people I know grew up knowing as conservatism

181 posted on 03/19/2003 12:59:38 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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