[amused]

The thing is that when it comes to the paleos, they've lost the mother of all battles before they stepped on the field. There are very few of them, and for a time, they did get their way on some policy issues because they were able to mask their numerical inferiority with volume. Now, people in the know have a good grip on the numbers of them.

True enough. Strange how the right seems to becoming more mainstream and the left is drifting ever farther towards its extreme.

[billbears]

True enough. Strange how the right seems to becoming more mainstream more to the left and the left is drifting ever farther towards its extreme.

Sorry but the neocons and their arguments are not what conservatism would have been 30 years ago. Instead of arguing against prescription drug plans, they offer their own. Instead of arguing for school prayer, they rebuff the Christians and make sure Muslims have rooms to pray. Instead of limiting the size and scope of government, they create the largest agency ever in the history of the general government.

Conservative? No. Moderate to liberal? Beyond a shadow of a doubt