Posted on 03/19/2003 7:57:38 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
"I respect and admire the French, who have been a far greater nation than we shall ever be, that is, if greatness means anything loftier than money and bombs."
— THOMAS FLEMING, "HARD RIGHT," MARCH 13, 2003
rom the very beginning of the War on Terror, there has been dissent, and as the war has proceeded to Iraq, the dissent has grown more radical and more vociferous. Perhaps that was to be expected. But here is what never could have been: Some of the leading figures in this antiwar movement call themselves "conservatives."
These conservatives are relatively few in number, but their ambitions are large. They aspire to reinvent conservative ideology: to junk the 50-year-old conservative commitment to defend American interests and values throughout the world — the commitment that inspired the founding of this magazine — in favor of a fearful policy of ignoring threats and appeasing enemies.
And they are exerting influence. When Richard Perle appeared on Meet the Press on February 23 of this year, Tim Russert asked him, "Can you assure American viewers . . . that we're in this situation against Saddam Hussein and his removal for American security interests? And what would be the link in terms of Israel?" Perle rebutted the allegation. But what a grand victory for the antiwar conservatives that Russert felt he had to air it.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
Sorry but the neocons and their arguments are not what conservatism would have been 30 years ago. Instead of arguing against prescription drug plans, they offer their own. Instead of arguing for school prayer, they rebuff the Christians and make sure Muslims have rooms to pray. Instead of limiting the size and scope of government, they create the largest agency ever in the history of the general government.
Conservative? No. Moderate to liberal? Beyond a shadow of a doubt
My wife might argue that point.
I agree that neo-cons do not have the loathing of big gov't as paleocons and libertarians do.
Instead of arguing for school prayer, they rebuff the Christians and make sure Muslims have rooms to pray.
Instead of arguing for mandated school prayer in the morning, the shift should be to protect the religious freedoms of one and all. That means non-disruptive praying and bible clubs are allowed. I don't see the point of mandating school prayer unless one is interested in foistering their view through the supposedly hated "indoctrination centers".
Instead of limiting the size and scope of government, they create the largest agency ever in the history of the general government.
This is something I also agree with.
I was asking earlier where your tin foil "American empire" accusation came from but YOU insist that I am implying all kinds of things about YOU. This makes it very difficult to have a sane conversation.
Yes, that is realpolitic.
Neocon/paleocon and Liberal/Conservative are important distinctions and discussions about how we run our nation internally, but externally, they are meaningless. All that matters outside our borders is that which makes us most powerful and secure.
For the next few decades we have the oportunity to build the first true World Empire. An Empire that has no enemies, because there is nothing outside it. Other superpowers will arise in time if we fail in this and they will punish us for our failure.
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I don't have to imply anything. Your "I'm innocent" veneer is very thin indeed. You couldn't wait to label me an anti-semite, hence your reference to your "Ariel Sharon and the Joos" comment in post #79.
Have a good day.
I sure am glad God is always on our side.
Well it would be a better use of my time to get some actual work done than go around and around with you. I've asked several times about to explain your tin-foil "imperialist America" piffle and all I've gotten back is whining about my implications and now name calling. This is getting both tedious and boring.
World empire with no enemies? LOL! No way bro......I mean, you really can't be serious....We can hardly control the enemies inside of our own country. How in hell are we going to have a "World Empire" without enemies?
You mean your boss has been paying you to argue with me? Nice touch.
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