Our Enemy is in the Sand

Toogood Reports ^ | 19 March 2003 | Nicholas Stix

[mrustow]

See also:

War by Proxy: Why We Can't Fight Our Mortal Enemies

The Price of "Peace"

[Torie]

This guy is too much of a coward to set forth in detail exactly what he proposes the US do. It is a good thing that nut has no power over American foreign policy whatsoever.

[mrustow]

Huh? First you call him a "coward" for not saying ENOUGH, and then you call him a "nut" for saying ... what?

[Torie]

The war against Iraq will not be a distraction from the so-called War on Terror, it will be a continuation of the War on Islam, er, Terror.

The above are the words of a nutter in my opinion. It is in the interests of the US, as the primary economic and military power on this globe, to contain conflict to the extent possible with that long run goal, not squirt lighter fluid on the coals. Any president that diverges from that primary mission, either as a hapless dove, or one who overreaches on steroids, perhaps ala a McCain in his more testosterone moments, is a real and present danger to the US.

[hatfieldmccoy]

Yo Tori, typically we read the posts first on Free Republic and then we comment. Hey I know it's silly protocol but it works.

[HaveGunWillTravel]

The war against Iraq will not be a distraction from the so-called War on Terror, it will be a continuation of the War on Islam, er, Terror.

I think I agree with the author. I looks to me like we are in a war with Islam.

[Torie]

When are we going to attack Malaysia, Tunisia, Morocco, Indonesia, Egypt etc? It's frankly nutter city.

[hatfieldmccoy]

Okay sports fans-the truth is ugly, dangerous, frightening. Toogood has nailed it, he is talking about the elephant in the room that nobody wanted to talk about. I hate to cloud the isssue with facts but how many people have been gassed tortured, shot, driven out, raped et al in the last 50 for the Christian God.

[doc]

What about North Korea?

[hatfieldmccoy]

Okay times up. The slaughter index is way up on the Allah team.

[hatfieldmccoy]

Okay sports fans-the truth is ugly, dangerous, frightening. Toogood has nailed it, he is talking about the elephant in the room that nobody wanted to talk about. I hate to cloud the isssue with facts but how many people have been gassed tortured, shot, driven out, raped et al in the last 50 years for which God??

[HaveGunWillTravel]

When are we going to attack Malaysia, Tunisia, Morocco, Indonesia, Egypt etc? It's frankly nutter city.

I think we're gonna chase radical muslims wherever they are. They will give up on their holy war against the infidels before we have to take it to all those countries. Just putting pressure on Saudi Arabia and Iran will go along way.

[hatfieldmccoy]

I repeat myself when under stress... I repeat myself when under stress..I repeat myself.....

[Valin]

Differentiating Islam from Militant "Islamists"
By Mateen Siddiqui
Editor, The Muslim Magazine

WHEN IT COMES to today's headlines from Dagestan, Chechnya, Algeria, Palestine, Egypt and other Muslim nations, we often find the adjective "Islamic'' applied to insurgent groups involved in fighting the legitimate governments of their nations. Some Muslims object to this characterization, arguing that because the actions taken by these groups contravene essential principles of Shariah, Islamic Divine Law, they should not be labeled Islamic.

To not label these groups ``Islamic'' would be to whitewash the truth, as they claim they are Islamic. Movements today in Dagestan, Chechnya and in many countries throughout the world are taking lives and inciting mayhem. And they are doing so in the name of Islam, Islamic government and Islamic law, but the question is what kind of Islam?

Having visited Chechnya, my magazine's staff has first-hand experience with the militant Islamists seeking to overthrow Chechnya's legitimate representative Islamic government. Their goal?
To replace it with one that is ``more'' Islamic. Chechnya was founded as an Islamic state. How, I couldn't help wonder, could a government established with the blood of thousands of freedom-fighters and elected by the people to form an independent Islamic nation, be replaced by one that's more Islamic? And how, I further wonder, could shedding the blood of fellow Muslims, as these groups have so consistently done, achieve that goal?

Attacks today are being directed as much at Chechen and Dagestani government officials as they are at Russians. Chechnya's president, Aslan Maskhadov, has been attacked by ``Islamic'' militants five times, each time narrowly escaping with his life.
Just before our magazine's staff visited Chechnya earlier this year, militant Islamists made an attempt on the life of the Grand Mufti of Chechnya -- the nation's highest religious leader. In 1998 the Mufti of Dagestan was blown up by an ``Islamist'' bomb as he emerged from prayer services in Machakhala. Though carried out by Muslims ``in the name of Islam,'' one has to ask, ``What have these actions to do with Islam, the religion of love, peace and tolerance?''

Sadly, these militant Muslims defend such horrendous deeds using verses of the Holy Koran and traditions of the Prophet Muhammad, taking them out of context and applying them in ways contrary to established Islamic jurisprudence of 1,400 years.
These groups consist of a very tiny but well-financed and well-armed minority. They purpose nothing with these attacks but the creation of terror in the hearts of the masses.

In order to truly understand what is behind these movements, we must distinguish between the different types of Islamic movements around the world by designating them according to their creed or their political perspective. Thus readers will come to recognize their agendas.
By creating anarchy and lawlessness, these groups can enforce their own harsh, intolerant brand of Islam on the weak, the helpless and the uneducated. Such groups do not represent the common view of Islam, held by the vast majority of Muslims and Islamic scholars, for whom Islam exemplifies the paragon of civilization and perfected morality. They represent what is nothing less than a movement to anarchy, under an Islamic label.

Eventually, those who read headlines about Islamic terrorism will realize that Osama Bin Laden, Shaykh Umar Abdur Rahman and others represent a certain distinct understanding of Islam -- politicized, rejectionist, reactionary and militant -- one that calls for the overthrow of Muslim governments. In doing so, they justify the means by the end. Their intention is not so much to create an Islamic state, but to create a state of confusion in which they are able to thrive.

For more please see
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/extremism/

[mrustow]

When are we going to attack Malaysia, Tunisia, Morocco, Indonesia, Egypt etc? It's frankly nutter city.

Where in the article does it say we will? You complain that the author says too little and too much. I can't see how any honest writer could satisfy you. Then why don't you write your own analysis? Oh, I get it -- you're a back seat driver type -- you know everything better than everyone else, only you keep your "wisdom" to yourself.

[mrustow]

Thanks for the link. Is "Shaykh Umar Abdur Rahman" the leader of the 1993 WTC bombers?

[mrustow]

Yo Tori, typically we read the posts first on Free Republic and then we comment. Hey I know it's silly protocol but it works.

BTTT

[Steve0113]

bump for later.

[mrustow]

FYI

[mrustow]

Bumpbackatcha.