[Conservababe]

I am saying that if the priest said this, he was uninformed and completely out of line. I didn't mean that your mother's story was untrue; I meant that what the priest said was untrue. Your mother was under no obligation to get your father's permission for surgery, or the bishop's permission. If she had a health problem requiring a hysterectomy, she had an absolute right to get the proper treatment.

Father McGowan, my mother almost died while trying to be a devout Catholic because of an uninformed and completely out of line priest.(your words) And still you say 'IF' the priest told her that she had to get permission. He did.

The Bishop finally allowed his permission. He did not tell my mother that the priest was out of line for his mandate to my mother.

Are you all in denial of your absolute power?

[Claire Voyant]

Your mother did get the surgery, right? Why did she leave the Church?? By the Bishop giving her "permision" he in fact SAID that the Priest was WRONG.

My brother and his wife left for a similar (?) reason, but in their case they seemed to be looking for an excuse not to get up on Sunday morning.

While having NO idea WHY she asked PERMISSION to get a necessary surgery done, one does NOT....NEVER...know what was said...how it was interpreted....what the circumstances are the others don't want us to know.

The Catholic Church is just as Arthur McGowan said....MILLIONS of people have gladly given their lives for the Church.....true Martyrs and Saints. God Bless Your Family.