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To: WhiskeyPapa; 4ConservativeJustices; stainlessbanner; billbears; Godebert; Colt .45
Also, the phrase "states (i.e. the people)" doesn't make any sense. But making sense is not very important to neo-rebs.

It makes plenty of sense to the people, of the States, who understand what "State's Rights" mean.

James Madison suggested in Federalist 39 that each state was “a sovereign body” only “bound by its voluntary act” of ratification. Other Federalists, including James Wilson, Alexander Hamilton, and John Marshall at the Virginia ratifying convention, held that such a proposal was already present in the Constitution and that the new government would only have the powers delegated to it. Opposition to and suspicion of the proposed Constitution on the grounds that it would infringe upon the privileged status of the states was widespread.

37 posted on 03/20/2003 12:32:59 PM PST by SCDogPapa (In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
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To: SCDogPapa
It makes plenty of sense to the people, of the States, who understand what "State's Rights" mean.

There are a lot more that understand "E Pluribus Unum".

Walt

38 posted on 03/20/2003 12:35:15 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: SCDogPapa
What the dim doesn't understand is the founders explicitly rejected a union of all states & people into one aggregate mass of people. Furthermore, with the reduction of consent reduced from 13 to 9, it would have required enumeration of 715 different combinations of ratifying states to be listed, thus the change by the Committee of Style: "We the states of ..." was changed to "We the people".
39 posted on 03/20/2003 5:51:57 PM PST by 4CJ ('No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.' - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: SCDogPapa

Wlat is merely obtuse. He fails to grasp the significance of the Framing and Ratification Conventions, what each State had reserved unto itself prior to any ratification, and how the Founders viewed things. He believes in an all powerful Central Government where everyone is subservient to it. Thank God my Missouri ancestors had the guts to stand up to a tyrannical government. In Wlat's eyes, Lincoln's repudiation of the American fundamentals expressed in the Declaration of Independence was "just good to go", and Lincoln's usurpation of his Constitutionally limited powers was just. In the days of the War for American Independence Wlat would've been known as a Tory.

40 posted on 03/20/2003 7:09:04 PM PST by Colt .45 (Certo scio, occisam saepe sapere plus multo suem.)
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