First Person: Hell no, I won't go - A fundamental deception lies at the core of the peace movement

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Saturday, March 15, 2003 | Brian Connelly

[FreedomPoster]

>>They try to tell everyone, "Violence never solves anything."

As my sign at the Atlanta Rally for America read:

War Never Solved Anything!
Except slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism.

Love the Heinlein references. I really need to go re-read a bunch of his work I read as a teen. He was amazingly prescient.

[Green Knight]

So what were the quotes? I don't remember the line you're referring to in Attack of the Clones and I've never read Starship Troopers (Too put off by the piece of crud movie).

[an amused spectator]

Thanks for the great post, T'wit. Good to see you still around here. ;-)

[T'wit]

Why, thank you! I'm here just about every day, but don't always have as much time as I'd like to comment or post.

[Unassuaged]

Didn't like Starship Troopers!?! I thought it was an instant classic.

[punster]

The Heinlein quote is:

""Those who cling to the untrue doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' would be advised to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Nations and peoples who forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."" -- Robert A. Heinlein

The quote from Attack of the Clones was made by both Anakin Skywalker and Padme: It was concerning the use of force, which they referred to as agressive negotiation.

[punster]

I have been a fan of Heinlein, ever since I was about 10. I have always felt his books were a sugar coating for a very objective lesson in philosophy and social theory.

[FreedomPoster]

Please don't think the movie and the book are at all related, other than the title and the fact that the enemies were bugs.

Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore or library and read that one.

[stands2reason]

The book is brilliant, and nothing like the movie.

[Ditto]

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