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Beef Vs. Bagels: Food Companies Take on Dr. Atkins
Reuters Science via Yahoo ^ | 3-16-03 | Carey Gillam

Posted on 03/16/2003 1:57:19 PM PST by Pharmboy

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (Reuters) - It has been months since Tina Moore last bit into a bagel or a slice of toast.

"Protein is good. Carbs are bad," says 41-year-old Moore, who altered her diet five years ago in a bid to lose weight.

Moore, the owner of a hair salon, is one of the estimated 15 million-plus Americans seen as devoted followers of dieting guru, Dr. Robert Atkins, who recommends eating protein for those who want to rid themselves of unwanted weight and keep the pounds off.

"Carbs and sugar ... they give you a quick high, then you get really low. You get tired and hungry," said Moore, who sees herself as a reformed "carbohydrate addict."

The hamburger patty is good, the hamburger bun bad, according to the teachings of Atkins, who has turned his philosophies into a dieting revolution, starting with his first book, "Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution," in 1972.

Atkins books -- his latest, "Atkins for Life," was published this year -- routinely top best-seller lists. Atkins companies have racked up millions of dollars in sales of specialty low-carb food products and carb-counting scales.

But the popularity of Atkins' eating advice, now appealing to another generation, is fraying the nerves of some food companies who rely on the consumer appetite for carbohydrate-laden foods such as pastas and pizzas, cakes, cookies and cereals, to add heft to their own bottom lines.

They claim Atkins is falsely disparaging food groups that serve as a foundation for American eating. And that by teaching people to severely limit the use of flour-based products, Atkins is eating into sales of some bread and cereal products in the United States.

"Our industry has to do something, and soon. It is starting to become a mainstream belief that carbohydrates are bad," said Judi Adams, director of the Wheat Foods Council, a consortium of industry players that includes ConAgra, General Mills and Kellogg Co.

"This Atkins diet -- or, I call it Fatkins diet -- is going out unchallenged. People are starting to believe it," Adams said.

Part of the consortium's push will be in Washington, where federal health officials are starting talks on revisions to the nation's 11-year-old Food Guide Pyramid.

Wheat Foods will be actively involved in defending the grains, Adams said.

Currently, the pyramid puts bread, cereals, rice and pasta as the foundation for healthy eating, recommending six to 11 servings a day. But some are pushing for changes that would move grains off the foundation, and cut back servings.

SLIM PICKINS

There is limited funding for the anti-Atkins campaign, as most food companies spend their advertising dollars on product specific programs to tout such things as new Berry-Burst Cheerios, recently released by General Mills.

So, with only a slender budget to try to counter the Atkins phenomenon, the Wheat Foods Council is aiming its "educational" campaign" at nutritionists and the medical community.

The strategy is a direct attack on Atkins: Americans who follow the Atkins diet increase their risk of health problems that include cardiovascular disease, high cholesterol, kidney damage and some cancers, the Wheat Foods Council says.

Adding insult to injury, it claims that Atkins followers can also suffer headaches, constipation and bad breath.

The council says obesity is not specifically tied to carbohydrates but is the simple result of lazy overeaters.

"Healthful grain-based foods have become the scapegoat for weight gain, when overeating and underexercising are at issue," said Carol Pratt, a Kellogg nutrition and regulatory affairs expert, and incoming chairwoman for Wheat Foods.

FEWER COOKIES AND CAKES

Consumer eating habits are hard to track, but the latest Consumer Expenditure Survey of the U.S. Department of Labor does indicate a possible shift away from grain-based foods.

According to the government survey, consumer spending in 2001 for ready-to-eat and cooked cereals, pasta, flour, flour mixes and bakery products dropped from the previous year even as consumer spending for meat, poultry, fish and eggs and other similar products increased for the third year in a row.

Moreover, the 0.2 percent decrease in spending came as the consumer price index (news - web sites) for those foods grew 2.9 percent. As well, wheat consumption in the United States dropped 4 percent from 1997 to 2001, according to industry research.

"I'm very much concerned," said Mark Dirkes, spokesman for Interstate Bakeries, the nation's largest wholesale baker and the maker of Wonder Bread. "He (Atkins) has run a very effective campaign. That just can't be good for our industry."

CLEANING OUT THE CABINETS

Among Atkins preachings: the elimination of "white flour-laden junk food" from kitchen cabinets, and research that Atkins says shows carbohydrates work to slow the body's burning of fat and make people feel hungrier faster.

And after decades of rejecting Atkins' theories, some new scientific research studies, including work by Harvard University, have started lending credence to Atkins' ideas.

Colette Heimowitz, director of research at the Atkins Health and Medical Information Services says over-consumption of bread, cereal and baked products is partly to blame for overweight Americans. Products made with white flour, sugars and hydrogenated oils are the worst.

Still, she says, Atkins is not looking to go to war with the food companies, and that even Atkins die-hards allow for an occasional doughnut or cookie.

"We teach people how to respect it and, on rare occasions, have it in moderation," she said. "We know people can't stay away from it forever."


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To: MosesKnows
Are not a steak and a salad a low carb/low sugar diet?

Yes. Good stuff.

The calories that a person consumes that the body does not need for energy the body converts to fat.

NO!! (lol, I've got to get you right on this, its for your own good). That's 1980s weight watchers stuff.

Just one argument against that is that many times if your body doesn't utilize calories they are simply passed, just as many other ingested elements. Feces contains calories.

In other words it's not just a mathematical eqaution. There are many factors that are to be considered when thinking about how fat cells are formed and how the body absorbs food.

Another argument would be that you could eat a 1,000 calorie meal of candy one day, a 1,000 calorie meal of steak on another, 1,000 if salad another and a 1,000 calorie meal of bread on another day and have very different results as far as weight gain, fat production energy levels, blood sugar, metabolism, etc. etc. on each day.

See what I'm saying?

201 posted on 03/17/2003 3:39:26 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: big bad easter bunny
The main supplier of glucose into the blood is the liver - either directly from its own glucose store (as glycogen, like muscle) or because it can turn fat and protein into glucose (called 'gluconeogenesis' - the new formation of glucose).

True, but as I noted, the muscles can also burn fats directly.

202 posted on 03/17/2003 3:41:06 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: Rytwyng
I don't believe that to be true but I would love to read your reference material supporting your argument. I personally have never read that, except some supplement claims but they also say you can turn fat into muscle which is pure BS.
204 posted on 03/17/2003 4:06:02 PM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: AAABEST
mark for later, I'm back to serious Atkins again.

It works great if you really do it, if you fall off the wagon and keep eating the high-fat, moderate protein diet, but add bread and carbs, you gain weight very fast.

This time I'm sticking with it. Last time I felt great and lost 70 pounds in about 7 months. 50 back on now.
205 posted on 03/17/2003 4:09:40 PM PST by RobFromGa (Real Americans Support our Troops 100%)
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To: big bad easter bunny
Regarding fat burning enzymes directly in the muscles -- the first reference was many years ago, in a sports medicine journal that I borrowed from a USC track coach. Alas, I don't have the reference.

But the experimental design was simply this: Trained runners were switched to hi-carb or hi-fat diets for 4 weeks, then VO2 max, time trials, and other running related measurements were taken. Also, small pieces of muscle fiber were taken out before and after. Result: the change in diet produced (a) no statistically significant alteration in athletic performance, and (b) the hi-fat group, over 4 weeks, significantly increased the number of fat burning enzymes in their muscles.

Obviously such a study can't be done "blind", as the athletes know what they're eating. Nevertheless, the results are interesting. If anything, a placebo effect would have favored the carbs, since conventional wisdom at the time was, "runners should carbo-load".

Prior, similar studies had claimed to show that going high-fat hampered running performance, but, those studies were of much shorter duration. The authors concluded that it took several weeks to fully switch over the enzymatic pathways. But the pathways are there, and can be turned on at will.

Turning "fat into muscle", on the other hand, is pure marketing B.S.

206 posted on 03/17/2003 4:27:53 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: redhead
Way to go!
207 posted on 03/17/2003 4:57:01 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: RobFromGa
Glad to hear that Rob. Just make sure you take supplements and find some interseting foods. My biggest problem with it is it gets boring.
208 posted on 03/17/2003 4:57:02 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: jacquej
I agree with Atkins and now am doing

http://www.suzannesomers.com

she has taken Atkins diet made a wonderful fulfilling way to live.

209 posted on 03/17/2003 5:03:48 PM PST by restornu
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To: Rytwyng
Have you ever read William Albrecht? 

http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010143albpap/010143idx.html

http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010143albpap/010143csiro.htm

Please scroll 2/3 the way down to read about Kansas wheat and the health of Army recruits from West (arid) and East (more rain) Kansas. Out of respect for the www.soilandhealth.org  website I am not posting their images.

Fig. 11. (Continued). Protein concentration in wheat in Kansas, 1949.

Fig. 12. The concentration of dental caries per inductee into the United States Navy 1942 gives a reciprocal curve at that for soil development under the climatic, forces. The minimum of caries is in the Mid-continental area of maximum of soil construction. There is an increase in caries in going westward from there to soils less developed, and more so in going eastward to soils more highly developed.

210 posted on 03/17/2003 5:11:16 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Breakfast is the hardest, and I don't have time for cooking, eggs or otherwise. Any good (tasting) breakfast suggestions that aren't broccoli?

I split the week between these (in descending order of frequency):


211 posted on 03/17/2003 6:02:33 PM PST by jennyp (http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp
Eggs and s/b/s? Is prepackaged? Sounds great.
212 posted on 03/17/2003 6:30:42 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Peace is good. Freedom is better.)
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To: TruthNtegrity
I see a lot of testimonies here, so I'll give one of my own. Atkins was the worst for us. We were so damn lethargic and tired all the time. We had no energy to work out and never felt like doing anything. Once we ditched that and added some things in that were "strictly forbidden by Atkins" we lost weight and felt AWESOME! And, hey hey, our blood levels were great too. Working out in my opinion is the absolute key to any weight loss, image improvment, spirit lifter, etc etc. This is my personal experience and I expect Atkins folks to respect it as I respect the fact that Atkins has worked for them. It isn't for everyone.
213 posted on 03/17/2003 6:36:18 PM PST by glory
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To: dennisw
You are OK in my book, DW.
214 posted on 03/17/2003 7:07:35 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: CheneyChick
You are right--up to a point. The megacarb diet that we as Americans ingest is baaaaaaad. And yes of course we need to get out more and exercise.
215 posted on 03/17/2003 7:09:30 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
LOL - the megacarbs along with the portion sizes! DANGER! It is good that so many have been able to drop the pounds with Atkins, and if there is a way to maintain - even better. We only get one body...

I'm just a rebel who doesn't want to be told what/what not to eat - I like to enjoy an occasional pizza, homemade bread and good pasta. So, I keep running.... Moderation is key, and then using and burning up what you've stored. And lots of water.

Congrats to everyone who has been successful with their goals and encouragement for those working hard on becoming healthier and more fit.

Cheers, CC :)

216 posted on 03/17/2003 8:07:26 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: dennisw
"Atkins is not universal,not for everyone. Don't be brainwashed."

That's true. And in the long run it's not practical. Not to knock others who like it. Whatever works. But I like milk and cereal and fruit....they are healthy, wholesome food! I can't be convinced otherwise.

217 posted on 03/17/2003 9:31:18 PM PST by Theresa
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To: Lee'sGhost
Eggs and s/b/s? Is prepackaged? Sounds great.

Not prepackaged, sadly. But by making scrambled eggs in one skillet & s/b/s in the other, it doesn't take too much effort for once a week more or less.

Jenny (who just came back from splitting a big wedge of chocolate espresso cake at the coffeeshop. Aghhgghhgghhg <drool>)

218 posted on 03/17/2003 9:44:56 PM PST by jennyp (http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: glory
I see a lot of testimonies here, so I'll give one of my own. Atkins was the worst for us.

I'll bet that something like the Metabolic Typing Diet turns out to be the best approach to dieting. (And eventually they'll have a genetic test they'll run & come up with a customized diet for everyone, & all the heated arguments will have to stop.) For many people, like myself, the optimal diet will turn out to be low-carb. But for others (like my sister, go figure!), some very different combination will turn out to be their best.

219 posted on 03/17/2003 9:50:17 PM PST by jennyp (http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: glory
Working out in my opinion is the absolute key to any weight loss, image improvment, spirit lifter, etc etc. This is my personal experience and I expect Atkins folks to respect it as I respect the fact that Atkins has worked for them. It isn't for everyone.

I don't doubt for a moment that working out was the key for you. But there are some folks, myself included, who have been diligent exercisers all our lives and got fat anyway.

I started running at age 15, yet by my early 30's I was struggling with a severe weight problem in spite of the running. Weightlifting didn't help either, and the standard low-fat diet made things MUCH worse. Only low-carb PLUS exercise does the trick for me, exercise alone does nothing.

220 posted on 03/18/2003 8:24:20 AM PST by Rytwyng
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