[panaxanax]

Wishful thinking FITZ.

I managed a 100+ acre apple orchard in WA state and hired between 28-35 "pickers" every fall during harvest. The only ones that stayed on and worked were the Mexicans.

The "Americans" would work a few days, get a draw on their wages and be gone. Sad, but true. Ask any orchardist.

We never had any problems in getting them to work. They would be in the orchard before dawn and I'd have to force them out after dark.

In a perfect world, your idea would be considered valid, however it just ain't so.

[FITZ]

But do you think no apples got picked before illegal aliens started coming around? There were virtually no Mexican citizens living in the US 40 years ago ---how did we manage to eat back then?

[FITZ]

Anyhow if welfare were actually ended, there would be more than enough low-skilled labor in this country. Plus we have so many youths in prison, if there was no welfare and enough low-skilled jobs, many of them wouldn't be there.