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I think we should stay home rather than meet and risk diplomatic mischief at this point.

I think we should've never put ourselves in this position to start with, should have never hinted in any form or fashion that we required someone's permission to look out for the national security of the U.S. Since we did get in it, however, the danger now in not having the vote has nothing to do with the U.N. It has to do with Bush having made such a forceful (a la read-my-lips) statement about how he WOULD have the vote come hell or high water. If there is now no vote, the press and the liberals will hammer him about the flip-flop without mercy from now until the election. It doesn't matter that the point is moot anyway. The cry of like-father-like-son will be yelled incessantly. You watch.

It has to do with Bush having made such a forceful (a la read-my-lips) statement about how he WOULD have the vote come hell or high water. If there is now no vote, the press and the liberals will hammer him about the flip-flop without mercy from now until the election. It doesn't matter that the point is moot anyway. The cry of like-father-like-son will be yelled incessantly. You watch.

I'm not buying it. W. has not mindlessly shouted "Vote or Bust!" like Spook Daddy screamed "No New Taxes!" 5,000 times on national television and made it his central campaign promise and then proceeded to break the promise. Spook Daddy's retraction hit people in the pocket. W. not going for a U.N. vote costs nothing cause the majority of Americans consider it worthless and toothless to begin with.

And in the midst of a war, is the press going to try to sell dead trees with "But he promised us a vote...". Don't think so. And afterward, there'll be better things to talk about. There may be a little whining but it can hardly become a major issue. The Democrats can't really use it effectively because most of their legislators and all of their leadership endorsed Bush going to war. And the official policy of the Democrat party is that we never need U.N. permission for war (exception: Howard Dean).

to be fair...
we have had the vote... it just has not been taken public.
We had either nine or ten with us... and France vetoed it ipso facto.

Russia and China, two other more blatantly communist nations, backed her up.
The rest is histoire... or so they say.

There was a vote. Every body showed Bush and Blair their votes... and now it's time to move on... the jig appears to be up. UN is dead... and but a vestige of the concept that it once bore... now is obit time... though no one will say it. It is true nonetheless.

And had there been a vote, with bush winning 10... the press would have still said... we failed to win a majority level support amongst our allies...

Why? because they can.