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Paris Not Willing to Buy U.S. Wrath With Its Veto
Tehran Times ^ | March 15 2003

Posted on 03/15/2003 7:07:27 AM PST by knighthawk

While efforts continue to break the deadlock in the United Nation Security Council over a draft resolution which could authorize military operation against Iraq, Paris has done its best to solve the Iraqi crisis in order to avoid another war in the region.

During the Security Council preliminary session attended by foreign ministers on March 7, the French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin tried harder than all other countries' foreign ministers at the meeting for a peaceful solution to the Iraqi crisis. While, the Russian, Chinese, and German foreign ministers didn't play the role they were expected of with respect to the crisis.

At a press conference, the French foreign minister expressed his opposition to the 10-day ultimatum to Iraq to disarm. Meanwhile, the U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell is against the French proposal regarding the Security Council member countries' decision on the draft resolution suggested by the U.S. -- the UN arms inspectors' report indicates that the Iraqi disarmament would take at least four months. So, it doesn't seem that the French proposal will be accepted by the warmongers' camp.

Seemingly, France, as the last obstacle in the Security Council would not be able to alter U.S. diplomacy. Ever since its fifth president, General de Gaulle, France has always been worried about its prestige on the international scene. Since then, it has always tried to pursue an independent foreign policy. France has also sought an equal role to that of the U.S. in international developments.

France, on one hand, being well aware of imperial U.S. policies, and on the other hand, not being able to change U.S. policies -- in order to maintain its international prestige and keep its Arab friends -- follows a minimalist diplomacy. It is through such minimalist diplomacy that France is trying to make the U.S. actions conditional to the UN resolutions.

French officials have, time and again, said that if pre-emptive attacks become international norm, then we can expect repeated and immediate violations of the weak countries' sovereignty on some pretext or some perceived threat.

Nevertheless, it seems that the French diplomacy in the Iraqi crisis has reached its end. In final analysis, following conservative neo-Gaullists' advice, Paris is not willing to bring American wrath on itself by using its veto power.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; iraq; uswrath; veto
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1 posted on 03/15/2003 7:07:28 AM PST by knighthawk
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2 posted on 03/15/2003 7:07:59 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Paris has done its best to solve the Iraqi crisis

Its "leader" is doing his best to protect Saddam.

3 posted on 03/15/2003 7:10:18 AM PST by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: knighthawk
Nevertheless, it seems that the French diplomacy in the Iraqi crisis has reached its end. In final analysis, following conservative neo-Gaullists' advice, Paris is not willing to bring American wrath on itself by using its veto power.

Let's hope they understand NO Veto cast, NO WRATH.

Cast a VETO and there will be HELL to pay.

4 posted on 03/15/2003 7:14:13 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: knighthawk
So the French AREN'T going to veto?
5 posted on 03/15/2003 7:15:15 AM PST by Happygal
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To: Happygal
So the French AREN'T going to veto?

Veto what?

There will be no more resolutions

6 posted on 03/15/2003 7:17:48 AM PST by ProudGOP (Suffers of Dyslexia: UNTIE)
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To: knighthawk
More spin to delay the war.
7 posted on 03/15/2003 7:17:58 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Happygal
So the French AREN'T going to veto?

Would the Tehran Times tell a lie?

;-)

8 posted on 03/15/2003 7:21:11 AM PST by dighton
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To: SandRat
Paris is not willing to bring American wrath on itself by using its veto power.

Sounds to me like the French have surrendered again........

9 posted on 03/15/2003 7:22:36 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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10 posted on 03/15/2003 7:23:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: knighthawk
Just $crew the Frogs with buycotts for the rest of this decade. Here is a simple list of products not to buy:

A little list of French companies and their products to avoid for the rest of this decade"

Air France
Air Liquide
Airbus
Alcatel - Based in Paris France
Allegra (Allergy Medication) - Produced by Aventis Pharmaceuticals based in Strasbourg, France
Aqualung (Including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest)
AXA Advisors
Bank of the West - Owned by BNP Paribas
Beneteau (boats)
BF Goodrich - Owned by Michelin
BIC (Razors, Pens & Lighters) - Started in 1945 by Marcel Bich. Originally based just outside of Paris. Began trading on the Paris Stock Exchange in 1972. 40.5% Publicly traded. Bich family still owns 33.5%.
Biotherm (Cosmetics)
Black Bush
Bollinger (Champagne)
Car & Driver Magazine
Cartier
Chanel
Chivas Regal (Scotch)
Christian Dior
Club Med (Vacations) - Owned in part by Paris based CDC (Caisse des Dépôts
et Consignations)
Culligan (owned by Vivendi)
Dannon (Yogurt & Dairy Foods)
DKNY - LVMH acquired 100% of Gabrielle Studio Inc., the privately owned licenser of Donna Karan trademarks back in 2001.
Dom Perignon
Durand Crystal
Elle Magazine
Essilor Optical Products
Evian
Fina Gas Stations
Fina Oil - Billions invested in Iraqi Oil fields
First Hawaiian Bank
George Magazine
Givenchy
Hennessy
Houghton Mifflin (books)
International Herald Tribune - 181 ave Charles-de-Gaulle - F-92521 Neuilly - FRSource:World Business Council for Sustainable Development '00 [Domain Registration], [Corporate Profile]
Jacobs Creek - Owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989
Jameson (wiskey)
Jerry Springer (talk show)
Krups (coffee and cappaccino makers)
Lancome
Le Creuset (Cookware)
L'Oreal (Health & Beauty Products)
Louis Vuitton
Marie Claire
Martel Cognac
Maybelline
Méphisto (Footwear & Apparel)
Michelin (Tires & Auto Parts) - Their phone number is: (33) 1 45 66 15 53 in France
Mikasa Crystal and Glass (purchased by ARC int'l in 2001)
Moet (Champagne)
Motel 6 - 33, Avenue du Maine- 75755 Paris Cedex 15 France
Motown Records
MP3.com
Mumms (Champagne)
Nissan (Cars) - Majority owned by Renault
Nivea
Normany Butter
Parents Magazine
Peugeot (Automobiles) - Pronounced "Pooh Joe", must be French
Pierre Cardin
Playstation Magazine
ProScan - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France
Publicis Group (Including: Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising)
RCA (televisions & electronics) - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France
Red Magazine
Red Roof Inns - Owned by the Accor group based in France
Renault (Automobiles)
Road & Track Magazine
Roquefort Cheese - All Roquefort cheese is made in France
Rowenta (Toasters, Irons, Coffee makers, etc)
Royal Canadian
Salomon (Skis)
Seagram's Gin
Sierra Software and Computer Games
Smart & Final
Sofitel (Hotels) - Owned by the Accor group based in France
Sparkletts (Water) - Owned by Danone, based in France
Spencer Gifts
Sundance Channel
Taylor Made (Golf)
Technicolor
T-Fal (Kitchenware)
The Glenlivet (Scotch
Total Gas Stations
UbiSoft (Computer Games)
Uniroyal
Uniroyal Tires - Owned by Michelin
Universal Studios (Music, Movies & Theme Parks) - Universal Studios is owned by Vivendi-Universal, headquartered in Paris France
USFilter
Veritas Group
Veuve Clicquot Champagne
Vittel
Vivendi - Vivendi Headquarters, Paris France
Wild Turkey (bourbon)
Woman's Day Magazine
Yoplait - France-based Sodiaal owns a 50% stake of Yoplait
Yves Saint Laurent
Zodiac Inflatable Boats

Veto the Frogs by $crewing them for the rest of this decade by not buying their products!
11 posted on 03/15/2003 7:26:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: Happygal
I still think in the last minute France will say it's okay to attack Iraq.

If France now supports the US, but the US won't attack Iraq, the Iraq's will punish the French (take away the oil and trade).

If the French oppose the US, and the US won't attack Iraq, Saddam will reward the French. (That is very unlikely, because Saddam will be toast soon)

If the US attacks the US, while the French opposed the US with the veto, the new Iraqi government will punish the French. And the US will do so too.

But if France play their game, and at the last moment (a few hours before the attacks) give the US a go-ahead, they won't be the big losers.
12 posted on 03/15/2003 7:30:58 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: SandRat
It's too late. They've screwed us over already, and they must now take the consequences.
13 posted on 03/15/2003 7:34:47 AM PST by expatpat
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To: knighthawk
French officials have, time and again, said that if pre-emptive attacks become international norm

Uh-oh. I see the old slippery slope argument has made its way to the Islamic press.

14 posted on 03/15/2003 7:35:00 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: knighthawk
Does this mean the French surrendered to the U.S.?
15 posted on 03/15/2003 7:35:02 AM PST by Duckdog
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To: knighthawk
They have overloaded their 'lower part of the body' with their mouth, too late for them to change now.
16 posted on 03/15/2003 7:36:35 AM PST by gulfcoast6 (Thank goodness it Sat., could be a Mon. you know.)
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To: knighthawk
Paris is not willing to bring American wrath on itself by using its veto power.

Hint, the wrath has started.

17 posted on 03/15/2003 7:41:36 AM PST by Smedley
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To: knighthawk
But if France play their game, and at the last moment (a few hours before the attacks) give the US a go-ahead, they won't be the big losers.

And our trusted leaders will once again call them "Friends of America". DISGUSTING!

But if France play their game, and at the last moment (a few hours before the attacks) give the US a go-ahead, they won't be the big losers.

18 posted on 03/15/2003 7:49:38 AM PST by B4Ranch (But if France play their game, and at the last moment (a few hours before the attacks) give the US a)
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To: Happygal
Regardless of what Frogland does, they have lost any respect of the United States for the next 100 years. Lets hope that at some time in the future they generate sensible leadership - but don't bet on it.
19 posted on 03/15/2003 7:53:43 AM PST by hgro
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To: Grampa Dave
JM Labs (Hi-end speakers)are French.
20 posted on 03/15/2003 8:07:17 AM PST by winner3000
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