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a_turk

You;ve made many intelligent and supportive posts here, and please don't think we are all 'against' you..... but, I'm going to lay out a scenario you aren't going t like.

Besides the fact that a new government in Turkey has slowed up the works, and didn't even approve the USA to use Turkish land for operations, and now isn't going to vote again (if they are( intime for war, the decision to not allow overfly rights was not a parlimentary one. What does that say?

I believe that syas the Turks don't want a large concentration of tanks and heavy artillary in the northern region of Iraq so that the Turks can feel free, and powerful enough without USA intervention, to quell any KURDISH uprising that may occur, even in Iraq.

So, my friend, I think Turkey now, like France and others is looking after their own self-interest. Amazing that those without self interest are actually with the USA and the UK and Spain in this little endevour.

[dagtaggart]

"Amazing that those without self interest are actually with the USA and the UK and Spain in this little endevour."

This statement is absurd. The US and those with us are there because of self interest. You think we are doing this out of altruism? good grief! The question is not if any of the nations are acting out of self interest, but what those interests are. That is the meat of the issue.

[a_Turk]

>> the decision to not allow overfly rights was not a parlimentary one.

The statement had been that overflight rights must per the constitution be granted by the parliament.

>> Amazing that those without self interest are actually with the USA and the UK and Spain in this little endevour.

London has been the victim of the IRA. Madrid of ETA. The USA of Al-Qaeda. Turkey of the PKK. These would have been natural allies, except that the USA relies on Kurdish help and has moved to train and arm these, who harbor the PKK, who sport maps of greater Kurdestan which cover 15 or 16 Turkish cities.. That puts Turkey in a precarious position. Does she allow the troops and tanks of a power which supports groups that harbor terrorists who threaten her to perhaps reinforce them? Or does she keep those troops and tanks out of the area long enough to pick out the terrorist element? The decision is difficult.