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To: Pitchfork
Any time you are ready to list your anti RKBA founding fathers' quotes, I will be fascinated to study them. Anytime.

(Sound of crickets chirping.)

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Now to the issue of whether an armed citizenry can prevent the imposition of a totalitarian regime: most certainly. It is virtually impossibe for such a takeover to succeed in a nation where there are ten million (minimum) scoped deer rifles capable of hitting a person at 400-1000 yards. It is not possible to put POTUS level security around an entire dictatorial regime. Not possible.

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But can some arms be tolerated in Ba'athist Party hands in Iraq? Certainly. The level of repression already in place is such that husbands do not whisper their true thoughts even to their wives. The secret police run constant loyalty tests, and the price of "failure" is death by torture.

The secret police order some poor schmuck to whisper disloyal words to a dear friend. He is not sure that his dear friend is not already under secret police orders to inform on HIM if he fails to whisper the disloyal words. So he does so whisper.

The friend then MUST report his whispering friend to the sectret police. If he fails to do so, the secret police, who set the entire thing up, will know that he heard disloyal words and did not report it. Punishment: death by torture.

In such a society, with a harshness that Stalin would have envied, a few guns don't matter. They pose no threat to Saddam, he is insulated behind miles of layers of security, and conspiracies are impossible, for the reasoons (constant loyalty testing) that I outlined. Hell, if a sniper could get Saddam, SAS, Delta or SEALs would have gotten him years ago.

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If a president of the USA tried to overthrow the constitution and become a dictator, he would have to do so quite alone. All of his henchmen would get their heads blown off from 600 yards every time they left their bunkers.

As you see, there is no similarity between the situation in Iraq and the USA regarding firearms.

But nice try, and thanks for provoking a stimulating discussion.

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Now, please post your own list of founding fathers' anti RKBA quotes. I'll wait. Since you are a teacher, I know you can find them quickly, say in one hour or less.

If you continue to post to this thread without posting your list of our founding fathers' anti RKBA quotes, then we will all have certain proof that you are just another gutless liberal liar, and we will know to simply scroll past your lies in the future.

One hour. We are waiting.

135 posted on 03/14/2003 7:44:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
WRT tyranny against an armed society: An intellectually honest person will find it difficult to refute your points, assuming they understand the depth of conviction that forms the basis for those points.

But then, that's the whole problem, isn't it?
180 posted on 03/14/2003 8:20:22 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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