[F16Fighter]

Look -- I'm not saying there isn't cause for concern and potential can-o-worm intrusion of privacy via the Patriot Act, but this also bears repeating:

Anything...ANYTHING the ACLU feels is a "bad thing for the country" must be a good thing in the long run.

Unfortunately, because of the advent of PC and email, we have entered a 'damn-if-we-do/damn if we don't' era of National Security enforcement.

God help us...

[inquest]

Anything...ANYTHING the ACLU feels is a "bad thing for the country" must be a good thing in the long run.

I don't suppose it occurs to you that sometimes the ACLU will take a reasonable position on something, just so it can make itself look more respectable. It's classic bait-and-switch strategy. First you throw out a reasonable position that resonates with a lot of people so they can get media attention, then they use their influence to push a far more subversive agenda.

IOW, as I said earlier in the thread: Sometimes the devil mixes his lies with the truth.