War By Proxy: Why We Can't Fight Our Mortal Enemies

http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/stix/20030316-fss.htm ^ | 16 March 2003 | Nicholas Stix

[mrustow]

FYI

[mrustow]

FYI

[DeuceTraveler]

"Conversely, neocons are politically connected globalists, who think that Leviathan is great, if it can be made to serve "our side"; they support "civil rights"; are pro-immigration; champion a radically interventionist foreign policy; love Israel; and think that being an American comes down to supporting certain philosophical propositions, regardless of whether one was born and raised in Tennessee or Timbuktu."


Hmmm...sounds like I'm a neocon...

[mrustow]

Well, I guess that's something only you would know.

[dirtboy]

But for now, we will fight a proxy war, with Saddam standing in for the house of Saud.

If Saudi Arabia didn't sit on so much damn oil, Bush could have included them in his axis of evil. And there are three oil giant countries we have to deal with in that region - Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran. If we invade Iraq, we've split them apart. If we stabilize Iraq, the mullahs in Iran have lost their justification to hold onto power, namely as a shield against Saddam. And if we stabilize Iraq and Iran as oil producers, it blunts the edge of the Saudi oil sword, and we can take on the ultimate enemy in the terror war - Wahhabism. That, IMO, is where the end game lies.

[jjm2111]

Whatever happened to the Anthrax scare here? Who did that?

[mrustow]

Agreed.

[mrustow]

I believe it was al Qaeda, but no one knows for sure.

[TLBSHOW]

March 9, 2002
"Our troops in the field are trained; they're ready; they are capable," Army General Tommy Franks said last week after briefing President Bush on the war plan.


http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030317/nmilitaryA.html

[TBP]

Saudi Arabia is our ally, but only temporarily. Just as we allied with the Soviets to defeat Hitler, we have allied with the Saudis first to defeat the Soviets, now to defeat Shoeshine Boy. But longterm, they are not our friends but our enemy. They are one of teh world's leading sponsors of terrorism and should be deposed. But we must be careful not to repeat the mistakes of China, Cuba, Iran, and Nicaragua, where tyrants were replaced with even worse tyrants who were also virulently anti-American.

[mrustow]

Thanks for the link. I think you meant to wrote "2003," though.

[mrustow]

P.S. And I meant to write, "write."

[Landru]

Thought you'd enjoy reading this guy's POV.
I especially didn't want you to miss this though because it's the one & only point the Liberal-Socialists are trying so hard to obscure.

"Note that, apparently unbeknownst to the socialist, mainstream media, and the paleo, alternative media alike, the proxy war actually began 12 years ago, and has continued ever since, against a dictator who, if we do not end things now, will soon be trading in Samoud missiles for nuclear missiles."

...Nic hasn't taken his eye off the ball.

[Landru]

Thanks for the ping, mr.
Nic really wrote a nice piece, here.

Stixx does a pretty good job of grouping -- by definition -- the prevelent "conservative" pundits who've assumed the role of speaking for the political right these days, too.

OK, so talk!
Where do y'all fit-in here?

...paleo *or* neo?? ;^)

[Happygal]

*LOL*...most of my friends would say the only con I am is a con woman

I'm not really sure where I fit in. Is there an honest con?

I'm a big Mark Steyn fan..and he's a neo..and I don't like Pat Buchanan much...and he's a paleo...

How about I'm...confused? ;-)

[Landru]

"How about I'm...confused?"

Oh, a confession, huh? {g}

Closest I could come to pegging myself, would be some kind of neoleopaleoconmon.

I suppose that'd take some translatating though, huh?
Well, work it out one syllabel at a time & it comes together quite nicely.

ne (new) oleo (old) paleo (need more sun) con (conservative) mon (male).

...I've a paleontologis't knack for names, ~eh?? :^)

[Happygal]

Closest I could come to pegging myself, would be some kind of neoleopaleoconmon.

Why am I not surprised that you didn't fit a stereotype? Kinda like putting a round peg in a square hole! :-)

...I've a paleontologis't knack for names, ~eh?? :^)

Paleontologist that's good with words? A thesauraus-rex? :-)

[mrustow]

Glad you liked it, L, we aim to please here at the FR Cafe.

One of the weird things about this neo-paleo spitting match, is that each group is essentially a tiny, little political cult or clique. (The paleos are even tinier than the neos, because they have less $.) I mean, how many real, thinking people fit exactly into these cramped, little niches?

I think you need to look at each of these magazines as a clique presided over by a Queen Bee who wields absolute power over her worker bees. And so, each writer for the magazine in question has always to toe the line ideologically, by at times saying things he doesn't believe, because otherwise he'll find himself without a job or a freelance outlet. These queen bees control money and power in a field -- political commentary -- that is quite limited. Oh, sure, anyone can get published nowadays, on the 'net, but how many people can earn a living doing it? And so you get a lot of pathetic hackery. The whole miserable business reminds me of grad school.

Note that Thomas Sowell has refused to be forced to choose sides. But then, as America's greatest living social scientist, he has a singular stature, and between his temper and his intolerance for apparatchiks, even at 72, he'd be likely to take a swing at anyone who tried to bully him.

[mrustow]

Bump to list.

[P.O.E.]

All we heard for the weeks after 9/11 was "anthrax, anthrax, anthrax". Post offices shut down, millions spent on decontamination. Lives lost.

Guess that was only a fad. Not very important now. No need to get rid of Saddam's stockpiles of the stuff.

I'm just amazed.