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Bush's 'days, weeks' add up to 6 months
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| Joseph Curl
Posted on 03/14/2003 9:16:56 AM PST by Sir Gawain
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:01:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Sir Gawain
The motto of the UN is "dither, delay, debate, dither some more, obfuscate, delay, debate, dither, delay, debate, dither, delay, debate, dither, delay, debate, dither, delay, debate".
I would compare the UN to the League of Nations, but that would be unfair to the League. The UN is nothing more than a rotten worthless building filled with roten, worthless excuses for human beings. The greatest contribution to humanity the UN could make would be to disband itself.
US OUT OF THE UN!
UN OUT OF THE US!
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:20:33 AM PST
by
Billy_bob_bob
("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
To: Sir Gawain
Send the bill for the containment troops to Paris.
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:21:43 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
To: Sir Gawain
I wish I had a counter to this article but I don't!
Enough is enough and Powell and his diplomacy at the United Nations can take a hike!
Time to quit having our foreign policy held hostage by the likes of France and the 6 countries that together couldn't equal the firepower of the military right here in Oklahoma with Fort Still, Altus, Tinker, and Vance AFBs not to mention our National Guard and Reserves.
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:22:16 AM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
To: Sir Gawain
This article missed the primary point - we couldn't have attacked until recently anyway. IMO the actual make/break decision regarding invasion was made after Blix's initial report to the U.N., and we have been building up forces ever since. The waffling of Turkey caused an additional delay, but now things are just about in place. What goes down in the U.N. has just been window dressing for some time.
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:22:47 AM PST
by
dirtboy
(The Pentagon thinks they can create TIA when they can't even keep track of their own contractors)
To: Sir Gawain
We have spent the last six months getting an army in place....It is now ready to go...once the trigger is pulled no one will be bitching about how long it took
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:25:14 AM PST
by
woofie
To: Billy_bob_bob
To President Bush:
Your time is up!
You are placing the United Nations ahead of our GI's.
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!
You are reneging on your promises.
You, sir, are to defend these United States: not the abusers.
AND, please do not use our troops as pawns! The clock struck MIDNIGHT!
Either go into Iraq now, or never.... otherwise, it is cruel punishment!
With respect, A USAF Veteran
(The above was in an email sent to the White House.)
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:25:22 AM PST
by
olinr
To: woofie
The problem is, by every account the necessary forces are now in place. If Iraq is such a critical threat that war is necessary, then delaying the onset of that war causes undue threat to Americans here and the forces abroad. Alternatively, if the delay causes no additional threat, then we're arguing against the necessity of war.
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To: dirtboy
This article missed the primary point - we couldn't have attacked until recently anyway. IMO the actual make/break decision regarding invasion was made after Blix's initial report to the U.N., and we have been building up forces ever since.That's probably as close to the truth as we will get. A lot of people (even on FR, surprisingly) do not realize just how much of a toll eight years of WJBC was to our overall ability to fight, and there has been a lot of catching up to do before we could cash the checks we are writing.
I understand the exasperation people feel, but only up to a point- I will not complain about waiting to go in until my kid's unit is fully up to speed with their new NBC gear and the associated training.
To: olinr
Ditto.
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:42:12 AM PST
by
tomahawk
To: olinr
I couldn't agreee more. Your post is a most welcome reprieve from those of blind loyalists.
To: Sir Gawain
After thinking more on the situation
IMHO
Actually going to the UN probably didn't change anything
It was going to take months to build up the men - and supplies and France- Germany and whoever would have been raising hell on the diplomatic level anyway and then the Turkley problem would still have occurred
The UN is just the world stage for all the BS
Britain's anti Blair politicians would have clamored to get the UN involved etc etc etc
So we are where we are and I think would have been there anyway
All this UN BS got everybody's cards on the table
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:46:15 AM PST
by
uncbob
( building tomorrow)
To: olinr; 4NOMOREGORE
Agree with every word in your post olinr.
What in the blue blazes is negative about it 4NOMOREGORE!
Maybe our President NEEDS the riot act read to him!
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:46:22 AM PST
by
ricpic
To: NittanyLion
The problem is, by every account the necessary forces are now in place. If Iraq is such a critical threat that war is necessary, then delaying the onset of that war causes undue threat to Americans here and the forces abroad. Alternatively, if the delay causes no additional threat, then we're arguing against the necessity of war.
I believe you have boiled it down to its tautologous essence.
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posted on
03/14/2003 9:59:19 AM PST
by
pt17
To: 4NOMOREGORE; All
Folks, IMO the poster 4NOMOREGORE is a sleeper troll. He/she started a vanity post that clamored for Bush to get moving - and now he/she is saying we shouldn't post such negative things.
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posted on
03/14/2003 10:03:32 AM PST
by
dirtboy
(The Pentagon thinks they can create TIA when they can't even keep track of their own contractors)
To: ricpic
See my post #16 regarding 4NOMOREGORE.
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posted on
03/14/2003 10:04:07 AM PST
by
dirtboy
(The Pentagon thinks they can create TIA when they can't even keep track of their own contractors)
To: Sir Gawain; Badabing Badaboom; Allan; Mitchell; bonfire; birdwoman; Fred Mertz
D'uh, if anybody hasn't noticed by now, Bush isn't in any hurry to take on Saddam Hussein. Considering that Bush concluded 18 months ago that Saddam authored the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon (read the "authorized version" of the post-9/11 campaign, Bob Woodward's Bush at War), that is a very interesting fact. What could possibly be deterring Bush from naming names and retaliating against our attacker? Hmm, what could it be? What could it be? Thinking caps on, people!
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posted on
03/14/2003 10:05:12 AM PST
by
The Great Satan
(Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
To: The Great Satan
What could possibly be deterring Bush from ... retaliating against our attacker? I dunno, maybe the fact that it takes several months to deploy sufficient forces and equipment to invade Iraq?
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posted on
03/14/2003 10:10:30 AM PST
by
dirtboy
(The Pentagon thinks they can create TIA when they can't even keep track of their own contractors)
To: PhiKapMom
No such firepower exists; it is theoretical, on paper, I am sorry to inform you.
Worse, what does exist is not sustainable, because we are not geared up to sustain it --- that is by order of the President --- I am also sorry to inform you.
The situation is grim, because he has not involved the American people, in fact he has refused the American people, their need to participate, not merely to cheer on.
American wins when the people are in the fight -- that is why George Washington was a champion of the Congress giving the OK for war.
Cheering, is not being in the fight. At home, being in the fight, is being involved in producing war material and shipping it; this includes full-time participation in building up and maintaining the logistics train --- which I am aware, that you know, this must be done.
We are not doing it.
We are not increasing our airlift capacity as we must for wartime conditions. We are not supporting commercial aviation --- to the contrary, we are letting it lapse.
We should have long ago, by Dec. 2001, been ramping up C-17 "Globemaster" production, but we have not --- that alone, is a serious failure by the President.
If you want to win, call the White House, call the Congress, and demand that the logistics problems be attended to before all else of the "pork" spending and political correctness.
The White House is deaf, so far, to understanding that we need airpower. We need 400 C-17's, so that we can lift a full armor division in a short time of mission cycles. We need tens of thousands of aviation maintenance personnel whom we do not, now have.
I'm sorry to add, we need this plus a lot more, to account for possible material losses --- and that, is something which the White House has also not got a handle on at all.
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