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BREAKING NEWS!!! SADDAM ATTACKING PREMPTIVELY???
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Posted on 03/13/2003 4:59:55 PM PST by Drewman626

7:53pm EST

FoxNews Alert just reported that Iraqi troops have left Baghdad with heavy artillary and are heading south to the Kuwaiti boarder. More troops with SCUD missle launchers are heading west. The thought is that Saddam is about to attack our troops.

This is breaking news and details are few and far between.

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Comment #581 Removed by Moderator

To: Drewman626
Oh, I wish he would try it! That may be the only way we ever get this going and over with. Geez, Louise
582 posted on 03/13/2003 8:27:25 PM PST by whadizit (A)
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To: P8riot

I did not know she had been decommissioned.

583 posted on 03/13/2003 8:27:33 PM PST by error99 ("I believe stupidity should hurt."...used by permission from null and void all copyrights apply...)
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To: concerned about politics
Working is so much better for the country than, you know, jacking into a sink or something.

Now now lets be fair. Clinton was also a product testor. "test driving" the Cuban cigar.(remember?)

584 posted on 03/13/2003 8:28:03 PM PST by Madcelt (God,Guns,Life,and Country- 4 things not to mess with!! Molon labe!!)
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To: wolf24
he's dead, Jim...
585 posted on 03/13/2003 8:28:16 PM PST by null and void
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To: relee
OK, all, here's my thoughts:

1) If I recall, wasn't there some sort of alert to beware of March 14th -- lot's of "chatter" indicating that something big could be planned for then?

So follow me here:

a) Let's assume for a minute that this is true.

b) Let's also assume for a minute that Saddam has been tipped off about it in advance. Whether he has aided or abetted it is irrelevant - the US will assume and claim that he was involved anyway.

c) Saddam can thus reasonably assume that soon after the terrorist attack(s), possibly even within minutes, President Bush will forget all about the UN and order our forces to GO, with or without the Brits.

d) Saddam also knows that as soon as the US begins, his ability to inflict major -- and what he hopes to be unacceptable -- casualties will be very limited.

e) Therefore, Saddam would want to position his forces so that they could inflict maximum havoc AT THE SAME MOMENT as the terrorist attack(s) are unfolding.

2) Another thought:

a) There have been broad hints dropped that we are intensively trying to turn various Iraqi generals, to either surrender or -- preferably -- join is a coup/rebellion against Saddam.

b) We can safely assume that Saddam knows all about this, and even that he knows exactly who has talked to which General and what each has been offered. His tenure and longevity has been built upon such capabilities.

c) Ditto with the rank & file troops. Saddam knows which ones are reliable and which ones are not.

d) It would therefore make all the sense in the world for Saddam to make sure that all of these unreliable troops, and all of the unreliable Generals, to be sent as FAR AWAY from Bagdad as possible prior to the outbreak of hostilities.

e) By sending them to the Kuwaiti border, Saddam knows that there is an excellent probability that the US will liquidate them ourselves, a nice little service to Saddam.

f) By making them launch WMDs against us right at the start, this will guarantee that the US will not be particularly inclined to accept surrenders or "defectors."

g) This will also guarantee that a sizeable percentage of US ordinance will be expended right at the beginning in the southern desert, where it would do the least harm to Iraq (other than the poor soldiers targeted).

3. While conspiracy theories usually don't hold any water, given current events one cannot totally discount the possibility that some particularly nasty international conspiracies are going on in secret against us. For example:

a) What if Iraq cut a deal with N. Korea -- Both will launch pre-emptive strikes at the same time? Normally, even if we sustained some casualties in Kuwait, we could recover. But if our forces were depleted right at the outset, and at the same time there was an urgent need to send reinforcements to Korea, then the the US would be in a very bad spot. I could see both Saddam and Kim concluding that this was probably as good an opportunity as they are ever going to get to inflict major damage on the US and survive, and that they have a strong interest in secretly working together.

b) At this point, I wouldn't trust the French, Germans, Russians, and Chinese to not give Saddam the benefit of their best intelligence, so that he will know almost exactly when the US is going to launch our attack, along with many important details about it. Saddam could then move his troops into position in confidence that we would be able to use them effectively to strike the hardest possible blow against us just before we attack.

It could be one of the above, or all of the above. One thing is for sure, though: If Saddam does strike first, it will not be because he is crazy, but because he has carefully planned it, and because it makes good sense from his perspective.

586 posted on 03/13/2003 8:28:47 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: jeepit
We should've went (sic) 3 weeks ago . . .

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt (for now).
But rigid thinkers don’t use ad homonyms.

587 posted on 03/13/2003 8:29:45 PM PST by Diddley (FR is a truth-seeking site, backed by substantiated facts; not empty opinion.)
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To: null and void
truth hurts but Dayamn! Did you have to make it so "poignantly" painful.
589 posted on 03/13/2003 8:30:27 PM PST by Madcelt (God,Guns,Life,and Country- 4 things not to mess with!! Molon labe!!)
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
e) Therefore, Saddam would want to position his forces so that they could inflict maximum havoc AT THE SAME MOMENT as the terrorist attack(s) are unfolding.

Which would mean he'd need to know when that moment is...

590 posted on 03/13/2003 8:31:23 PM PST by null and void
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To: wolf24
Sincerely,

Ted Kennedy

Great addition.

591 posted on 03/13/2003 8:31:23 PM PST by Diddley (FR is a truth-seeking site, backed by substantiated facts; not empty opinion.)
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To: CatOwner; prairiebreeze
The dirty nuke in a scud will work well against Kuwait or Isreal." "Then there would be no Iraq to worry about re-building methinks."....prairiebreeze

Get real! We won't launch a nuke at Iraq. Ever!.....CatOwner

If the Iraqis launch a dirty nuke at Israel, the nuke (or two or three) that will be launched at Iraq will be Israeli.

592 posted on 03/13/2003 8:32:18 PM PST by Polybius
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To: P.O.E.
"every indication of our vacilliating president, he won't move until the UN gives him the authority"

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you're sadly mistaken

I wish I was "sadly mistaken" but we have at least six months of incontrovertable evidence that shows Bush is a willing puppet to the capricious whims of the UN, the seditionists in the Department of Hate, and any petty tyrant with an axe to grind, while he has not been a friend to the US citizen.

And tell me about how Bush has stopped the appeasment to North Korea, last time I checked, your tax dollars are still being looted from wallet and into the nuclear power plants, fuel oil and food. NK gets nuclear power, the US is shutting down our plants. NK gets oil, our prices for home heating and gasoline are rising. NK get subsidized food. We get to pay above market prices for sugar, corn, wheat and other foods with price supports. So if Bush grabs ankles for NK where there is a clear and present danger even the leftists recognize, what makes you think he will demonstrate a real backbone with a guy who has been menacing the world for decades?

593 posted on 03/13/2003 8:34:31 PM PST by Dr Warmoose (Just don't leave any brass with your fingerprints on it behind, OK?)
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To: Madcelt
Subtily is not my forte...
594 posted on 03/13/2003 8:34:34 PM PST by null and void
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To: Drewman626
Wait Mr. Hussein! The Pope condemns anyone attacking unilaterally.
595 posted on 03/13/2003 8:35:53 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: null and void
I noticed.
597 posted on 03/13/2003 8:36:41 PM PST by Madcelt (God,Guns,Life,and Country- 4 things not to mess with!! Molon labe!!)
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To: Dr Warmoose
Entertain the posibility that all this delay is giving us more time to round up fifth columnist HERE...
598 posted on 03/13/2003 8:36:43 PM PST by null and void
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To: ChadGore
This headline is more than a little shrill.

Agreed. What happens if an Iraqi jeep backfires? Headlines = "WAR STARTS!!!!!!"

599 posted on 03/13/2003 8:36:45 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Let's Roll Already!)
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To: Madcelt
yer smarter than ya look...
600 posted on 03/13/2003 8:38:00 PM PST by null and void (;^)
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