FBI Plane's Return Heralds Strange Events

The Indianapolis Star ^ | March 13, 2003 | Ruth Halliday

[Miss Marple]

Really? I may be dense, but when flying at night, what are you going to see, besides lights?

[Miss Marple]

Do you mean transmitters attached to cars and trucks? Or do you mean bugs as in wiretaps?

[js1138]

Ever hear of night vision scopes? If television stations have them I assume the FBI has them. Why does our military prefer to fight at night?

[Miss Marple]

OK...night vision scopes. What are you going to see? People moving? What would you see at night and why bother, since the lights on the plane attract attention?

[syriacus]

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[blackdog]

I own an airport. Listen to me when I tell you several ways to really find out what they are doing.

Talk to the FBO who is taking their credit card.

Get a local pilot friend to tool around following them. It's not illegal.

Get that pilot to monitor their frequency and conversations with controllers. Make note of what they are sqwaking on their transponder and write it down. All ATC tapes are archived should you ever want to request them thru FOIA.

They might be photographing vehicle movements. If so, the FBO gas guy will be able to tell you if there is a camera mounted inside or out.

[helper]

Could be all of them, but likely to be something very low powered perhaps embedded in clothing.

[js1138]

Can't answer the why questions. The mind boggles.

[thepitts]

In all reality Bloomington is far from being a "people's republic" but there do seem to be too many folks down there who view the FBI as the enemy.

Considering Cathy E. Crosson's bio as shown on her web page at IU...

B.A., 1975, J.D., 1982, Indiana University. Clerk, Hon. James B. Young, Indiana Court of Appeals, 1984-86. Associate Of Counsel, Weston, Sarno, Garrou and DeWitt, Beverly Hills, California, 1986-present. Professor Crosson is active in appellate work and negotiations in state and federal courts, and her work with Weston, Sarno has been primarily at the appellate level. She has authored numerous petitions and briefs before the U.S. Supreme Court, including Alexander v. U.S., which concluded almost a decade of litigation on the use of RICO forfeitures in obscenity cases before state and federal courts from Florida to California; City of Los Angeles v. Alameda Books, her seventh case before the Court, is currently pending. She also serves as a briefing attorney with Feminists for Free Expression.

[blackdog]

A Cesna 172 can slow fly @ about 50mph safely. I know it's mighty hard to track things at 50 mph. You can photograph them, but tracking like you would indicate is more easily done in a small helicopter.

The right tool for the job and all.

[OKSooner]

Suggested reading:

The final Jihad, by Martin Keating

(Brother of Frank Keating, Governor of Oklahoma)

This SOUNDS LIKE part of it.

[hchutch]

Poohbah, what type of sensor devices could be carried on a single-engine Cessna?

[OKSooner]

Then again, maybe it's just the FBI getting some flight time for a new pilot?

[ninenot]

My sister was a student at St Joseph's College and once took a trip with 5 other students (mixed-race crowd) south to Kentucky. They were stopped along the way for "broken taillights." The way she described it, Indiana (at that time, early '70's) STILL had a number of County Sheriffs who were thinly-disguised Klansmen.

[syriacus]

Suggested reading: The final Jihad, by Martin Keating (Brother of Frank Keating, Governor of Oklahoma) This SOUNDS LIKE part of it.

Thanks for the reference. I will look for the book.

More on Crosson

I-69 project picks up in Indiana, Kentucky States among 7 collecting input to decide route

'The southwest quadrant of Indiana is one of the last large areas in the Eastern United States that doesn't have one of these damn interstates turning it into one big line of truck stops and fast food and pollution,'' said Cathy Crosson, an Owen County organic farmer, alpaca breeder and member of the Protect Greenspace Alliance. ''The farmers of Owen County are going to let this highway go through over our dead bodies.''

But Mindy Breeden told state officials she supports a new interstate in southwest Indiana, especially if the route goes through Morgan County. She said her husband, a salesman for Brehab Electrical Equipment, regularly travels along busy rural roads throughout the region, including Ind. 37 and Ind. 67, where there have been five traffic fatalities this year. ''It would make his work so much safer,'' she said. ''There have been too many accidents on Ind. 37, too many accidents on Ind. 67.''

[Miss Marple]

You know, it sounds like you know what you're doing, but let me assure you that I am not driving 40 miles south to question anyone at that airport about the FBI. Nosiree!

[lucyblue]

Oh yeah?

Well I heard from my brother's friend's uncle that Wisconsin is a breeding-ground of COMMIES.

[ninenot]

Well, emissions of various types can be picked up by specific sensors. That would include cell-phone conversations, not to mention "hot" emissions, radiological in nature, or even thermals---a warm spot where one should not exist.

Radar can find all sorts of interesting geological formations, some not made by Nature.

[blackdog]

Nah, you need a pilot friend to go buy some gas and bring a free boxed catered lunch to the FBO gas guy. They are all starving poor pilots and a free meal will get you a free date with their sister or a chat about those idiots in the white plane. Take your pick......