How on God's green earth can you twist what we're planning to do to Iraq as self defense? This I've got to hear!
It would be one thing for France to have an opinion about an impending US-Iraq war. Everyone has opinions. But just where the h**l do they get off trying to stop us, by saying they'll veto no matter what, and even campaigning in other countries to vote against us? What the h**l business is it of France whether the US ousts the ruling regime of Iraq? It's not even like we're even asking them to participate, for pete's sake.
France is a permanent member of the UN Security Council. The closest thing we have to justifying an attack on Iraq is that it is in violation of Security Council resolutions. In other words, we wish to place ourselves in the position of acting under UN authority. France does not agree with that action. Their reasons are their own. As a matter of fact, they are very similar to reasons that the US has stood upon in the past when blocking other actions that UN member nations wanted to take. You act like you own France. You don't. It is a sovereign nation.
That's what I'm mad about.
So mad that you would alienate the entire world by throwing a tantrum until you get your way?
I guess you haven't been paying attention. Check any speech by our President of the last N months. What's that? You disagree with the President over whether Iraq is a threat to our self-defense? And France disagrees?
I don't give a crap. Who nominated France to make the ultimate evaluation of what does and doesn't pose a threat to the United States? In fact, that's the job of our Commander-in-Chief. Not of France. (And not even you.) Yes: when the choice is between "US President thinks X is a threat to the US" and "France doesn't think X is a threat to the US", guess which one I pay more attention to?
The closest thing we have to justifying an attack on Iraq is that it is in violation of Security Council resolutions. In other words, we wish to place ourselves in the position of acting under UN authority. France does not agree with that action.
Aha, listen to what you just said. Notice how you said "France does not agree with that action", instead of "France does not agree that Iraq is in violation of Security Council resolutions". France knows damn well that Iraq is in violation. (Actually, France is in violation.) Yet they cloak what they are doing in peace-loving pacifism and other noble virtues. Because they are trying to stop the action instead of casting a legitimate vote.
And that's why I'm mad at them. Understand now? Again: they have the right to their opinion and all. But the rank hypocrisy ticks me off. Shouldn't it?
In other words, we wish to place ourselves in the position of acting under UN authority.
I don't know about this "we" business. I don't personally care about UN authority. It's not even clear that Bush cares. Mostly, Tony Blair cares. Yes, it would be convenient to have it, but I won't shed a tear if they don't. But here's the 20,000 dollar question: when we don't get it, and we attack anyway, will France shut the f**k up?
If they do, I'll take everything back. If not.....
You act like you own France. You don't. It is a sovereign nation.
Read my lips: I AM NOT ASKING FRANCE TO DO A DAMN THING OTHER THAN TO SHUT THE F**K UP. It is none of their damn business whether one country on a different continent attacks another country on yet another different continent. How does this translate into me saying I "own" France? I just want them to mind their own damn business. You're really saying that's too much to ask?
So mad that you would alienate the entire world by throwing a tantrum until you get your way?
What is this "alienate the entire world" stuff? By "entire world" you mean France, Germany, Belgium, and Iraq's government, right? Or perhaps you mean Muslim extremists too. Uh, too late to "alienate" them, they already hate us. So I'm not gonna be losing any sleep over that.