Beijing plans to use North Korea to help drive the US out of the Pacific

BrookesNews.Com ^ | 13 March 2003 | Peter Zhang

[sheik yerbouty]

The Octoganarian commies of Beijing will fall.

[DoughtyOne]

Since they can't drive us out of the world, we're going to have to take action. If China wants to play this game, I'd advise we find a new nation to carry on trade with. Let China drift back into the 17th century.

[ARCADIA]

The Chinese will be begging for us to return if the Japanese start getting active. But, I doubt we will be going anywhere soon. The same may not hold true for the Chinese.

[Sabertooth]

FYI

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

China better watch out for a strong southeast wind this spring or summer.

The fallout is a killer!

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

This guy seems to have the situation analyzed correctly.

[RandyRep]

As I recall, this guy was writing for an Aussie paper several years ago during the Clinton games, and was pretty good at describing US/China policies and games.

Do you think that our State Dept sees it like this article says? Or the CIA? Or the Defense Dept? Or Bush/Cheney/Rice? We'll see, I guess.

No American columnist has written these things, have they?

[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

"The Octoganarian commies of Beijing will fall"

The mantle was recently passed to a relatively young despot.

[John H K]

Who has China had direct armed conflict with in the last 40 years?

Russia or the US?

What country does China have massive territorial claims on?

Russia or the US?

Food for thought. If one is of a conspiratorial bent there's a lot of smoke obscuring China's REAL long-term target.

[smokeyjon]

Read Tom Clancy's "The Bear and the Dragon".

It's pretty damn scary how right he is...

[Ruger1099]

I wonder how Taiwan fits into the picture? Maybe if China thinks the U.S. is going to abandon the western Pacific, they can have free reign with Taiwan.

[TheClintons-STILLAnti-American]

"This guy seems to have the situation analyzed correctly"

If so, it is further indication that Bill Clinton's worst nightmare...that the world will come to recognize he was a total joke as president,will be his legacy...despite his frantic efforts the remainder of his days to keep the blinders on those who want to believe the playboy imposter president was anything but a disgrace and a traitor to the nation.

[7 x 77]

I doubt the Chinese think they can oust us. They recognize the chasm between us militarily and economically.

[doug from upland]

Oh, you guys just hate Bill Clinton. Get over it. :)

PS -- no one hates this lying, perjuring, raping, traitorous, impeached, disbarred bastard more than do I.

[DoughtyOne]

So what to do about Kim? Beijing will not allow him to attack the South. And it will not allow him to launch a suicidal attack against the US. It won't let him give
nuclear weapons to terrorists. (One of them might even end up in Beijing).

I don't have much negative to say about the article, as it provides some interesting commentary and assessment.  This is one statement I'm absolutely convinced is false.  China facilitated nuclear weapons in Pakistan.  For anyone whose missed it, Pakistan is a very problematic state.  It could go south at about any time.  When it does, the chances of nukes or even nuke technology winding up in the hands of terrorists is way better than 50/50.

We haven't seen attempts over the years to develop nukes in Iran, Iraq, North Korea and other nations.  All of a sudden, just at the time of China's emergence into onto the global stage, all these nations have nuclear programs of advancing technology. I believe that the North Korean tactic this writer mentions, is being utilized with a number of other states.

Europe, Russia and China all deserve some credit for this.  For the almight Euros, Franks, Duetch Marks, Yen, even dollars, folks have been willing to gift these terrorist states with goodies, read that nuclear related goodies.

I've taken China to task for it, but the other nations are going to have to take their fair share of credit for it as well.  And guess what, we'll find some Americans complicit in the problems we'll face in Iraq, Iran and other places.  We have a bunch of idiots in this world.  It's getting harder to stop them from selling their grandmother for some currency, and not all that much currency either.

We even had a President compromise some positions for a few hundred grand.

[NormsRevenge]

Beijing's assessment of Clinton the man and his advisors persuaded her that Kim could successfully blackmail Washington, which he did with an ease that even surprised Beijing. The result of Clinton's cowardice was that Kim got nuclear weapons facilities and billions of dollars in aid, which relieved Beijing of the necessity of providing more aid to prop up the North.

Clinton to his Red masters handlers .. "Mission Accomplished"

[oldtimer]

I'm a big believer, and getting to be a bigger believer in a missile defense system.

We have to prioritize this technology, and may God help us if the libs get back in charge in the forseeable future.

As we know from the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, many far left libs do not think we should have a technological "advantage".

[Billthedrill]

Maybe so, maybe no. The things Beijing does not want out of this seem to me more likely than the things they do - the former include a rearmed Japan providing a regional counterweight to China that at the moment does not exist, and deployment of more, and not fewer, U.S. troops in an aroused and frightened South Korea. Further, China does not really want to lose her handy buffer state, but reunification on Southern terms will effect precisely that. OTOH, a South Korea committed to absorption of an utterly devastated and impoverished North is unlikely to present economic competition to China's nascent high-tech industries, but a unified Korea as a next-door neighbor is something China will have to deal with in a very different way from her current benign neglect of NK.

One thing is certain - the Chinese do not want a certified lunatic lobbing real nuclear weapons around the theater. Nor will the Japanese permit it - the prevailing wind is west-to-east.

In reality, though, I think the Chinese are waiting and watching how the U.S. reacts to this essentially unprovoked brinksmanship on the part of North Korea. What we will do in this sort of situation is knowledge far, far more valuable to their strategists than what we might do.

[RightWhale]

China's REAL long-term target

That's right. All the way to Poland.