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Whose War? (Israel’s “amen corner” has plans for America to fight many wars in the Middle East.)
The American Conservative ^ | March 24, 2003 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 03/11/2003 1:14:12 PM PST by quidnunc

A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest.

The War Party may have gotten its war. But it has also gotten something it did not bargain for. Its membership lists and associations have been exposed and its motives challenged. In a rare moment in U.S. journalism, Tim Russert put this question directly to Richard Perle: “Can you assure American viewers … that we’re in this situation against Saddam Hussein and his removal for American security interests? And what would be the link in terms of Israel?”

Suddenly, the Israeli connection is on the table, and the War Party is not amused. Finding themselves in an unanticipated firefight, our neoconservative friends are doing what comes naturally, seeking student deferments from political combat by claiming the status of a persecuted minority group. People who claim to be writing the foreign policy of the world superpower, one would think, would be a little more manly in the schoolyard of politics. Not so.

Former Wall Street Journal editor Max Boot kicked off the campaign. When these “Buchananites toss around ‘neoconservative’—and cite names like Wolfowitz and Cohen—it sometimes sounds as if what they really mean is ‘Jewish conservative.’” Yet Boot readily concedes that a passionate attachment to Israel is a “key tenet of neoconservatism.” He also claims that the National Security Strategy of President Bush “sounds as if it could have come straight out from the pages of Commentary magazine, the neocon bible.” (For the uninitiated, Commentary, the bible in which Boot seeks divine guidance, is the monthly of the American Jewish Committee.)

David Brooks of the Weekly Standard wails that attacks based on the Israel tie have put him through personal hell: “Now I get a steady stream of anti-Semitic screeds in my e-mail, my voicemail and in my mailbox. … Anti-Semitism is alive and thriving. It’s just that its epicenter is no longer on the Buchananite Right, but on the peace-movement left.”

Washington Post columnist Robert Kagan endures his own purgatory abroad: “In London … one finds Britain’s finest minds propounding, in sophisticated language and melodious Oxbridge accents, the conspiracy theories of Pat Buchanan concerning the ‘neoconservative’ (read: Jewish) hijacking of American foreign policy.”

Lawrence Kaplan of the New Republic charges that our little magazine “has been transformed into a forum for those who contend that President Bush has become a client of … Ariel Sharon and the ‘neoconservative war party.’”

Referencing Charles Lindbergh, he accuses Paul Schroeder, Chris Matthews, Robert Novak, Georgie Anne Geyer, Jason Vest of the Nation, and Gary Hart of implying that “members of the Bush team have been doing Israel’s bidding and, by extension, exhibiting ‘dual loyalties.’” Kaplan thunders:

The real problem with such claims is not just that they are untrue. The problem is that they are toxic. Invoking the specter of dual loyalty to mute criticism and debate amounts to more than the everyday pollution of public discourse. It is the nullification of public discourse, for how can one refute accusations grounded in ethnicity? The charges are, ipso facto, impossible to disprove. And so they are meant to be.

What is going on here? Slate’s Mickey Kaus nails it in the headline of his retort: “Lawrence Kaplan Plays the Anti-Semitic Card.”

What Kaplan, Brooks, Boot, and Kagan are doing is what the Rev. Jesse Jackson does when caught with some mammoth contribution from a Fortune 500 company he has lately accused of discriminating. He plays the race card. So, too, the neoconservatives are trying to fend off critics by assassinating their character and impugning their motives.

Indeed, it is the charge of “anti-Semitism” itself that is toxic. For this venerable slander is designed to nullify public discourse by smearing and intimidating foes and censoring and blacklisting them and any who would publish them. Neocons say we attack them because they are Jewish. We do not. We attack them because their warmongering threatens our country, even as it finds a reliable echo in Ariel Sharon.

And this time the boys have cried “wolf” once too often. It is not working. As Kaus notes, Kaplan’s own New Republic carries Harvard professor Stanley Hoffman. In writing of the four power centers in this capital that are clamoring for war, Hoffman himself describes the fourth thus:

And, finally, there is a loose collection of friends of Israel, who believe in the identity of interests between the Jewish state and the United States. … These analysts look on foreign policy through the lens of one dominant concern: Is it good or bad for Israel? Since that nation’s founding in 1948, these thinkers have never been in very good odor at the State Department, but now they are well ensconced in the Pentagon, around such strategists as Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

In a Feb. 9 front-page article in the Washington Post, Robert Kaiser quotes a senior U.S. official as saying, “The Likudniks are really in charge now.” Kaiser names Perle, Wolfowitz, and Feith as members of a pro-Israel network inside the administration and adds David Wurmser of the Defense Department and Elliott Abrams of the National Security Council. (Abrams is the son-in-law of Norman Podhoretz, editor emeritus of Commentary, whose magazine has for decades branded critics of Israel as anti-Semites.)

Noting that Sharon repeatedly claims a “special closeness” to the Bushites, Kaiser writes, “For the first time a U.S. administration and a Likud government are pursuing nearly identical policies.” And a valid question is: how did this come to be, and while it is surely in Sharon’s interest, is it in America’s interest?

This is a time for truth. For America is about to make a momentous decision: whether to launch a series of wars in the Middle East that could ignite the Clash of Civilizations against which Harvard professor Samuel Huntington has warned, a war we believe would be a tragedy and a disaster for this Republic. To avert this war, to answer the neocon smears, we ask that our readers review their agenda as stated in their words. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. As Al Smith used to say, “Nothing un-American can live in the sunlight.”

We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian people’s right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.

Not in our lifetimes has America been so isolated from old friends. Far worse, President Bush is being lured into a trap baited for him by these neocons that could cost him his office and cause America to forfeit years of peace won for us by the sacrifices of two generations in the Cold War.

They charge us with anti-Semitism—i.e., a hatred of Jews for their faith, heritage, or ancestry. False. The truth is, those hurling these charges harbor a “passionate attachment” to a nation not our own that causes them to subordinate the interests of their own country and to act on an assumption that, somehow, what’s good for Israel is good for America. …

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TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: KickRightRudder
Do you really believe PB hates ALL Jews?

No, I said he hates an entire group of people. He probably knows and is friends with a few Jews--lots of bigots hate a group in general, but like specific members of that group in particular. It's weird, but it's human nature.

Aren't you in fact generalizing when you infer that because somebody butts heads with the Likudniks in Israel and America they must be bigots?

Pat Buchanan not only goes hammer-and-tongs at Israel, he complains about Wall Street--and he somehow manages to mention only those trading firms with Jewish-sounding names.

Pat Buchanan, if he isn't an actual anti-Semite, is making one hell of an effort to sound like one.

PB has spoken highly of Barak's peace efforts.

As have others, including those who just wish the Jews would shut up and get in the showers.

Why would he say anything complimentary of Isreal Labor if he's such a monster?

Apparently, he was quite happy with Israel as long as they were willing to commit national suicide.

Did you know Abe Foxman owes his job to PB? Pat recommended him for the job long ago.

SFW?

81 posted on 03/11/2003 3:57:27 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: quidnunc
Many of us in the conservative camp are not Jewish, dont
particularly want an Israeli-centric foreign policy, but WE DO WANT SADDAM DONE WITH - *NOW* - and we are sick and tired of these lies and slurs about US intentions.

We can smell Pat B's anti-Israeli rants for what they are, it reeks of anti-semitism. I defer the William F Buckley and his judgment on that matter, who catalogued the record of Pat B 12 years ago, when Pat B was *then* falsely claiming that Iraq/Kuwait was all about Israel, and doing his darnedest to split the US from anything that might help the Jewish state of Israel.
Being wrong then doesnt make him right today.

To use Chirac's line, Pat "missed an opportunity to shut up".
82 posted on 03/11/2003 3:57:41 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: dennisw
The issue to Pat seems to be

1-It helps Israel (IMO, problematical, since a multitude of other actions GWB didn't take would have helped Israel more) and

2-There are Jew's in the administration, thus guilt is established.

It's curious that in noting Hoffman's four groups of influence, he notes only the fourth. IMO, Pat would qualify for number 3, admitadly less important than 1 and 2. But 4 runs the show. No matter what Pat says, American Fundamentalists, I kind of like that! The world would be a better place with more of them.

A third and less important group sees in everything a contest between America's traditional political and religious values and all who attack them, be they secular and dissolute liberals or Islamic terrorists. This group I call the American fundamentalists.

83 posted on 03/11/2003 3:58:08 PM PST by SJackson
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To: finnman69
. The leftists will side with anything that is ANTI-BUSH. ANYTHING!

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This is true!!!

Sign of the times: Donahue had Buchanan on, and Buchanan was saying the US should listen more to Russia and not provoke war ... and Donahue had a comment "what was I telling you all those year ago!" Buchanan backpedalled "well that was the soviet union ..." and looked mighty unhappy.

Donahue only had Pat B on as a prop for anti-Bush and anti-war sloganeering. They will use ANYTHING.

84 posted on 03/11/2003 4:01:53 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: Jimmyclyde
careful, in 1973, the Arabs had soviet equipment, had advantage of a surpise attack on Israel and would have possibly destroyed Israel had it not been for US help airlifting military equipment. .... funny, wasnt Pat B. working for Nixon back then?

Does he regret that decision of Nixon's?
85 posted on 03/11/2003 4:04:39 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: SJackson
We Conservatives should make a point of marking the starting point of the Terrorism War as *1979*, the year Iranian students took American hostages.

It will remind people of all that Jimmy Carter did to make terrorism possible. Without Jimmy, the Shah would never have fallen. Which means hezbollah would never have been funded, which mean lebanon would never have become a mess, which means Israel would have been able to deal with Arafat properly, which means the palestinian problem would never have degenerated into a civil terroristic war. With the Shah and US support, Iraq would never have attacked Iran, which means they never would have attacked Kuwait either.


Conclusion: Without Jimmy Carter's multiple clusterf***k foreign policy, terrorism would never have gotten as bad as it did, on 9/11.

Terrorism War - Started under Jimmy Carter, ended under George W Bush (God willing).





86 posted on 03/11/2003 4:10:10 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: WOSG
Without Jimmy, the Shah would never have fallen.

Actually, if we'd thrown everything into keeping the Shah in power, the net result would have been that the Shah had fallenp--and that the USSR would have occupied Iran under the terms of the 1921 Treaty of Friendship between the USSR and Iran.

87 posted on 03/11/2003 4:13:23 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: JohnGalt
There is no better anti-Communist than neo-cons like Richard Perle.

Many of the anti-war marchers *are* Communists, the whole international Left organized to stop America from engaging in a robust pro-freedom liberation of Iraq.

Why is Pat B siding with Communists on this?

Pat B is anti-Israel and anti-Jewish to the point of warping his view of our national interest. Coddling terrorists and tyrants Arafat and Saddam is dangerous and stupid in the extreme, but Pat Bs biases blind him to that. Anti-semitic? If the shoe fits... His 'indictment' is more full of holes than swiss cheese.
88 posted on 03/11/2003 4:16:19 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: hchutch
"This article would have sounded better in the original German. "

okay, trivia Q (i forget the answer) who came up with that line ? It was said before, I think about 12 year ago, in reference to Pat B's commentary.

Mark Shields??!?
89 posted on 03/11/2003 4:20:38 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: WOSG
It was Molly Ivins.
90 posted on 03/11/2003 4:22:43 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: quidnunc
I am Catholic and certainly resent the implication that Catholics in general share this view of Jews. If I recall Bill Bennett is Catholic and was the point-man
in 1992 attacking Pat Buchanan, FYI, in particular raising Pat's views on Jews and minorities as suspect.

This, for example, is a pile of cr*p: "His traditional Cathlic upbringing (Pre-Vatican II) taught him that Jews were a nemesis of Catholics for the last 2000 years. That is the lens with which he views things, and nothing can be done to change that." That is *not* Catholic teaching.
91 posted on 03/11/2003 4:26:36 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: quidnunc

92 posted on 03/11/2003 4:26:56 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Poohbah
There is a philosophical principle known as Ockham’s (Occam's) Razor which postulates that when multiple competing hypotheses are put forward as possible solutions to a question, the simplest answer is most likely to be the correct one. (Before you can proceed to the improbable, you must first rule out the obvious.) The simplest answer to the question “Are Pat Buchanan and his paleo-con cohorts anti-Semitic?” is that based on all the evidence, yes they are.

When they speak of neo-conservatives you can almost hear them spitting out the word "Juden!"

93 posted on 03/11/2003 4:26:56 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Poohbah
not so. 1921 was ancient history and irrelevent. in 1979, the shah was ill, but there was no reason for him to step down except that the Mullahs had engaged in violent street protests. Carter told the military to do nothing, so they did nothing. eventually all top 150 generals were killed in the revolution that followed.

The Shah was a modernizing Shah who gave the women the vote, which pissed off the local Bin laden-types. A good US President would have stood behind the Shah and it would have been enough to maintain the peace in that constitutional monarchy, but Carter stabbed him in the back and a virulently anti-US theocracy took over.... Same story in Nicaruagua - it's NOT an accident! Taking advice from Carter is poison, unless you're a communist.

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A post on this:

"maybe you're too young to remember, but the Ayatollah's plane actually turned back one day while Carter coerced the Shah,(or whatever interim set-up with a guy named Bani-Sadr existed as the government), to let him land. Then a vicious attack on the army began. They were surrounded in their barracks and literally butchered. Many TV pictures of the time of eviscerated corpses of Iranian Army officers, who could have defended themselves, except for the fact that Carter had decided to sacrifice our friends. Fitting it was then that Carter's ultimate political fate was determined largely by what he had brought on himself."
94 posted on 03/11/2003 4:39:23 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: quidnunc
Yup. Like I said, if he isn't an anti-Semite, he's working REAL hard to convince one and all that he is.
95 posted on 03/11/2003 4:39:45 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
Why is it that the people who claim to be the purest defenders of America's sovereignty

You refer to Pat Buchanan and the people who think like him. Paleo-libertarians. They also think of themselves as conservative. 

also happen to be the ones who demand that America abrogate its right to engage in international intercourse with the nation of Israel, solely to appease the mythical "Arab street?"

Appeasing hundreds of millions of Muslims is their priority so we can get MidEast oil with minimum hassle. They want no problems with the Muslim world and will do anything to avoid stirring them up. Israel gets in the way and should be left to the Jihadist wolves. Many of them plain don't like Israel (and Jews) so this works out fine. Their ideas are consistent with a libertarianism that is non-interventionist, that just wants to engage in uncomplicated trade. With politics that stop at our borders.
Why do anything in the MidEast? Even Saddam has to sell his oil somewhere. So why waste our resources and military on this mass murderer?

The flaw in their logic is that if we abandon the MidEast tomorrow the Chinese and Russians will move into the vacuum. I could see China coming up with a plan to charge America an extra $20 per barrel of oil to break us.

 

96 posted on 03/11/2003 4:42:57 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: WOSG
not so. 1921 was ancient history and irrelevent.

The treaty was still in force. Sorry, it was very relevant. It caused us no small amount of anxiety during Operation Eagle Claw in 1980.

in 1979, the shah was ill, but there was no reason for him to step down except that the Mullahs had engaged in violent street protests.

The violent street protests would not have gotten traction without the support of LOTS of the population.

Carter told the military to do nothing, so they did nothing.

Whose military? The Iranian military?

eventually all top 150 generals were killed in the revolution that followed.

That's what tends to happen to close political cronies of the head of state when there's a revolution.

The Shah was a modernizing Shah who gave the women the vote, which pissed off the local Bin laden-types.

Yeah. He also pissed off a lot of other people, and he looked to be too much of a foreign lackey for many people's taste. You have to know a bit of Iranian history--the dynasty was incredibly recent (1920, IIRC), the last popularly elected government had been bumped off by the CIA and MI6, and the Shah was dragging the whole damn country into the 20th century faster than Iranian culture wanted to get there.

A good US President would have stood behind the Shah and it would have been enough to maintain the peace in that constitutional monarchy, but Carter stabbed him in the back and a virulently anti-US theocracy took over...

With much popular support.

What would you have done differently?

97 posted on 03/11/2003 4:47:33 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: SJackson
2-There are Jew's in the administration, thus guilt is established..........

There were many more Jews in Clinton's administration. They were too liberal to keep conservatives happy. Now Pat's unhappy with Jews in another administration who are far from liberal. It's like the Russians who blamed communism on Jews and now they blame Russian capitalism on them.
98 posted on 03/11/2003 4:47:53 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: Sabertooth
You were right about Mr. Buchannan's masochistic tendencies.

I see what you mean perfectly now.

99 posted on 03/11/2003 4:50:09 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Yes, there is sexual tension between Sammy & Frodo.)
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To: quidnunc
What's it take to be an anti-Semite? Active hostility to Jews and/or Israel would, I presume, clearly qualify. More interesting, at least to me, would be whether simply not caring about Israel any more than one cares about Taiwan or Sri Lanka makes one an anti-Semite. Lately I get the sense that, at least here on FR, plenty of people would argue both positions qualify as anti-Semitic.
100 posted on 03/11/2003 4:51:29 PM PST by caltrop
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