[JohnGalt]

You are making the case for war, albeit with an over reliance on emotion and capital letter, that mainstream Conservatives should be making. This war is about making an example of Saddam, an uppity Arab, and send a message to other Arab nations that they better get their own house in order.

However, its clear that the neo-cons and the Bush administration are not making this case-- witness the latest talking points that refer to how poorly Saddam treats his people as reason to go to war. Just because they are your allies on this one issue, I suggest not selling your principals to them.

Appeasement? This is silliness; you want France to appease the United States, but when they don't they are called cowards. You say that pulling out of the Middle East is not an option, but offer no reason as to why you create this (false)choice. I can only surmise at this point that the war frenzy has negated the need for logical and rational debate so any cheerleader, even from Kaiser Bill (Bennett) is welcomed.

[hchutch]

But it is NOT making an example of Saddam, it in ensuring he cannot harm the United States of America or its citizens directly (through acquiring weapons of mass destruction) or indirectly (through funding terrorist groups).

Saddam Hussein is merely item two on the agenda, behind dealing with al-Qaeda. There is, in my opinion, a fair deal of circumstantial evidence point to an Iraqi role in 9/11. There are meetings we DO know about between Iraq and al-Qaeda, meetings that the Secretary of State mentioned to the UN last month.

To call what Ron Paul and others advocate appeasement is not silliness, it is the truth. It hurts, but that is what it is. The only rational course of action is victory. That has been clear since 9:04 AM on September 11, 2001, once it was clear that what was happening at the World Trade Center was an unprovoked attack on the United States of America.

[Redleg Duke]

You really are terrified that President Bush might be a success and set back your libertarian dreams of conquest, aren't you!