[Fraulein]

Without the state there is no such thing as a property right. They only exist because the state creates them...Granted the people created the state, but once they did the state is sovereign.

Wow, spoken like a true socialist.

[VRWC_minion]

Wow, spoken like a true socialist

Now your getting to the truth of my statement. Its the state that decides who ahs what property rights.

Our states created laws protecting private property in many or most cases. Other states could just have easily adpted laws that didn't allow private property.

The declaration of independence could have been used to establish a socialist state.

[Mark]

This from last year:

This from Jointogether.org anti gun/anti substance abuse site :

California - San Leandro City Gun Tax Helps Abused Children The city of San Leandro has collected over $189,000 in taxes
on gun sales since voters approved the three percent tax on handguns and ammunition in 1998. An organization that works with
abused children will be the first recipient of the tax funds.

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Taxes on guns of course! Taxes on Fast Foods soon. Libs are dangerous when in power.