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To: Hank Kerchief
You are claiming rigor in an area where it is easy to show you are wrong: You assert the unborn do not suffer. What is so magical about the birth canal or c-section that it is the gateway to sufficient consciousness to enable suffering? That's just laughable.

This inquiry into just when a foetus becomes functionally indistingushable from an infant when it comes to pain and suffering is, at least, a valid pursuit. You're the one spouting dogma.
44 posted on 03/09/2003 6:07:36 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
You are claiming rigor in an area where it is easy to show you are wrong:

Then yhou will have no trouble doing it, I suppose. You assert the unborn do not suffer.

I made no such assertion. I assert only that it is impossible to know the unborn are conscious, in the sense we are conscious when awake, as opposed to unconscious, as when asleep.

What is so magical about the birth canal or c-section that it is the gateway to sufficient consciousness to enable suffering? That's just laughable.

Does this have a point? Not criticising you. I just may not understand.

This inquiry into just when a foetus becomes functionally indistingushable from an infant when it comes to pain and suffering is, at least, a valid pursuit.

That very well may be, but the question of when infants actually begin to consciously experience pain has not yet been settled.

You're the one spouting dogma.

Really? Here's my dogma. Abortion is both morally and practically evil and wrong. It is easy to demonstrate what is wrong with abortion, but most of the arguments and most of the approaches by those who oppose abortion are doing more harm than good.

This "the unborn feel pain," argument is one of the bad arguments against abortion. That is why I am opposing it.

Hank

94 posted on 03/09/2003 8:12:47 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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