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To: joanie-f; snopercod; Stand Watch Listen; sarcasm
The Clinton-China Time Bomb Set to Go Off Shortly, by Mary Mostert, May 15, 2000; posted by Stand Watch Listen, 000515

My reply 5:

Human labor under socialism is like oil under the desserts of the Middle East. And it is the business of socialism to "O.P.E.C." labor such as the O.P.E.C. Nations control oil.

The interest of American businesses in "opening up free trade with socialism" will be a "ball and chain" around the right of self-governance. No democratic-republican-thinking and freedom-loving people will be able to resist peacefully, I am afraid, the economic "mood swings" which the socialists will be able to affect, should American businesses further tie themselves to the price of labor in socialist countries.

Because whenever the socialists want to wield power, they can adjust "the spigot" at the socialist-controlled "labor fields" and sour the generally-more- "conservative administration" of the United States of America. The socialists can simply increase the price and problems of labor.

This is the international interest of the Red Chinese (among other socialists): to control the "labor fields." The communists now have control over territories within the Western Hemisphere. And my concerns are two-fold:

The Red Chinese military installations in Cuba. The Red Chinese missiles --- in the Western Hemisphere --- aimed at U.S. forces and the territories of the U.S.A, let alone aimed at our allies, as well as at countries which the "Reds" seek to intimidate.

The short-term thinking which does not focus upon the price of freedom, whereby American businesses will give up some as they seek a next quarter's report reflecting the lower price of labor ... in Cuba. Very tantalizing indeed.

And the moment that Fidel Castro, "The Maximum Leader," does not want a "conservative" American President, how difficult will it be for the price of labor in the Socialist Hemisphere to shoot up? And thence, American businesses will find themselves wanting to lower their costs, and therefore they will conclude that they need to "contribute" large amounts of protection money to the socialist candidate?

On the public's part, the way to giving in to such tyranny, is paved with soothing re-assurances of good intentions, such as, that "socialism" is about "being a social liberal." But upon arrival, socialism is much more about the usurption of the boardroom ... from on high ... and it is always nationalizing control over the economy and the peoples' every aspect of their culture, their lives, and their livelihood.

The purchase of labor from socialist countries is the aim of Clintonism; and it is the lust of too many, among American businesses.

And at the cost is our Liberty.

I hate to say it, but the war is here...

I am not alarmed by what Red China may do to Taiwan. Because the Red Chinese do not seek the destruction of Taiwan. "Victory" over Taiwan, is measured by the strength of intimidation in the balance of power known as "face" in the Orient...

The most awsome power that freedom-loving people have to fear, is that socialism can control them by means that are not generally military. 

And the greatest means is fear --- the most striking talent of "President" Clinton and his minions.

I would expect that "President" Clinton will conjure up in the public's mind, some sort of "biological terrorism" -type threat, which would require his holding onto the Office or transferring power to Al Gore and suspending the Fall '00 elections. "President" Clinton is the "time bomb" who is un-predictable; ask the Secret Service.

He is a fear-monger. People are in a panic, thinking that "something must be done about" whatever "President" Clinton has set forth as the thing to be feared. The people have nearly, utterly, forgotten about the limits of power --- of the federal government --- and the rights of the people within their States, to resolve the threats to their homes, communities, and the States via their State legislatures.

The matter of the right to keep and bear Arms, falls under the rights of people and the States to wrestle with the topic of being "well regulated," according to the Second Amendment.

The matter of "biological terrorism" falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government. Tick. Tock. What will the Clinton mind think up for the next crisis du jour?

And a link to: Granting Permanent Normal Trade - to Red China - a Trojan Horse?


8 posted on 03/09/2003 2:06:55 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
A man ahead of your time, once again.
9 posted on 03/09/2003 2:12:01 PM PST by snopercod
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To: snopercod; joanie-f; Stand Watch Listen; sarcasm
Having said that, this stuff may be of interest ---

(1) Link to: U.S. Information Agency [files, text:] Energy Dept. July 20 on U.S.-China Oil/Gas Conference

The meetings are being held under the auspices of the United States-China Forum on Environment and Development co-chaired by Vice-President Al Gore and Premier Zhu Rongji... (Following is the text of the press release):

United States Department of Energy

July 20, 1999

U.S., China, to Explore Policies to Accelerate Commercial Cooperation in Oil and Gas Sectors

Houston Conference to include more than 100 oil and gas and government officials

More than 100 U.S. and Chinese oil and gas industry and government officials are gathering in Houston today to explore opportunities to accelerate commercial cooperation in the development of reliable and economical sources of oil and natural gas. The meetings, which will run through July 22, are being held under the auspices of the United States-China Forum on Environment and Development co-chaired by Vice-President Al Gore and Premier Zhu Rongji. The Second U.S.-China Oil and Gas Industry Forum is being held at Rice University's Baker Institute for Public Policy, Baker Hall, 6100 Main Street, Houston, TX. A joint press availability with U.S. and Chinese officials will be held on Thursday, July 22, at 12:00 noon.

The United States' oil and gas industry, already the largest foreign investor in China's petroleum sector, aims to increase oil and gas exploration and development and infrastructure projects with the Chinese oil and gas industry. The forum, which will help facilitate new policy and investment opportunities, follows the initial earlier forum meeting held last November in Beijing. The Houston meetings will focus on natural gas and oil policy, including: mutual access to information, acreage and downstream markets; policies to promote private investment in China's petroleum sector; the US perspective on business practices; energy technology; lessons learned from operations in China and other countries; and regional infrastructure opportunities.

China's economic growth has made it the second largest energy consuming nation in the world, while the United States is the largest. Both nations share the goal of improving energy security while protecting the environment through policies that promote investment in oil and gas development, energy efficiency, renewable energy and clean coal technology.

The U.S. delegation is being led by Robert Gee, Assistant Secretary for Fossil Energy; and Jan Kalicki, Counselor to the Department of Commerce; and will include other representatives from the Office of the Vice President, and the Departments of Commerce, Energy, and State. China's delegation is being led by State Development Planning Commission Deputy Secretary General Zhang Guobao and Consul General Wu Zurong.
(end text)

(2) CSIS - Middle East Studies Program [Center for Strategic and International Studies]

The Changing Geopolitics of Energy -- Party VI

(3) Link to: Energy Information Administration's [Report on Red] China [energy production synopsis as of April 2000]

(4) Link to: James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy, at Rice University, "China's Growing Energy Dependence"

"Some analysts worry that China's dependence on the same energy supplies as its neighbors and Western industrial nations will prompt heightened competition in the energy arena and drive Asian regional arms races. Kent Calder notes that "Expansionist, confrontationist strategies, not to mention the acquisition of nuclear weapons, offer some attractive prospects of gain to regional powers, such as preferential access to energy resources and sea lanes in the South China Sea. The costs of armament and preparation for war, conversely, become less onerous as East Asia grows increasingly affluent. This combination of wealth and bellicosity is a recipe for disaster." But such predictions have already missed the mark on several counts and are likely to continue to do so."

(5) Link to: Clinton praises oil deal that bypasses Russia and Iran [ABC News 11/18/99] vs.: Russia Route Best for Kazakhstan Oil, Russian Official Says [Bloomberg.com 05/18/2000]

10 posted on 03/09/2003 2:47:56 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
bttt
12 posted on 03/10/2003 7:01:26 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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