[neutrino]

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[rimmont]

They would rather crucify Milosevic. It's easier.

[Jim Noble]

France represents a strain of Euro-thought which actually believes that Europe is still powerful and can become more powerful still in the future.

The keys to Europower lie in transnational institutions, nominally democratic (but clearly not republican), but in actuality run by their leaders and staff.

The Euros plan to be the leaders of all the "lesser breeds without the law", and plan to win their compliance by bribing them with American money.

Exhibit #1, of course, is the UN.

Now, here comes George W. Bush, son of America's first truly transnationalist President, and he's screwing everything up.

Not only is he a believer in Jesus Christ and the Constitution of the United States, but he's prepared to tell the precious UN to piss off.

And if the UN pisses off, the principal EU tool for control of third world resources and third world minds pisses off along with it.

[Lexington Green]

They're commies.

[katnip]

They seethe in resentment that a country of what they probably consider non-sophisticated mutts has become the beacon of all that's wonderful in the world.

I'm sure they think we simply don't deserve it.

[Lando Lincoln]

My view is that these countries, particularly France, are expecting, indeed hoping, that the war will go badly. If that should happen, France will wrest diplomatic leadership of Europe from the Anglos - and perhaps even the US. This, to me, is unforgivable.

[mrsmith]

"France, Germany, Russia, and other nations are so determined... "

They were big shots in the League of Nations.
They'll be big shots in their new League of Nations.

And they'd rather be big shots in a fiasco that leads to hell than accept their deserved place.

[Rebelbase]

MADE IN FRANCE/MADE IN GERMANY......WMD and support equipment.

[what's up]

These countries don't want to compete fairly on the world stage.

They want to grab power from an unelected, elitist platform (the UN) and keep the "bourgeoisie" down.

Classic socialist/communist view. Not hard to understand.

[dawn53]

There is something about the Presidency of GWB that seems to "expose evil."

I first said this when the battling started over the election recount and you could see the devious lengths to which the Dems were resorting. Plus the way the courts were throwing aside laws in favor of "their" candidate, it just seemed to me that "evil" was being exposed.

Then after 9/11, the "evil" of Islamic fundamentalism was exposed.

Now it seems like the "evil" of those that would use us to liberate them, then turn their backs in our time of need, is coming to light. Not to mention the absolute "evil" intent of a body that would call their mission "world peace" and yet elevate countries ruled by tyrants and dictators to positions of authority and pretend that good is evil and evil is good.

I personally think alot of Europe's attitudes are rooted in anti-Semitism.

Don't really know what it all means, it just strikes me as odd that all these things have happened under GWB's watch. Call it providence, call if coincidence, but whatever it is, I'm glad it is happening.

[dark_lord]

There is a difference between "France", for example, and the politicians who are the political leaders of France. French corporations may well enjoy a trading relationship with the USA but French leaders are the ones who have personally profited with the Iraqi trade.

[tomahawk]

Here's why: They hate America and want to see it nuked, gassed, and contaminated. That's why.

[TommyDale]

"I truly do not understand why France, Germany, Russia, and other nations are so determined in their opposition to the US, their support of Iraq, or both.

I don't understand why a variety of women's groups, including NOW, persist in protests in favor of Saddam Hussein."

Because they are evil!

[freethoughts]

Yes European nations gave weapons to Iraq, but so did the US (and no Hussein was not a good guy at that point).

Europeans do not like Hussein. They are well aware that he, like unfortunately many others, is a horrible leader. What they question is whether Iraq, and the Middle East as a whole, will actually be better off after a war. Saddam is a bad man, but he is by no means the only bad man in Iraq. Once he loses power, many other groups will attempt to seize it. Those who suffered under the Baath party's rule will attempt to take revenge. Fundamentalists will become more popular. Confrontation of some sort between the Kurds and Turkey is likely. Any prolonged US presence and/or control of oil in Iraq will greatly anger the Arab world. They do not want another McArthur. In their minds, we will cease to be liberators and we will become invaders.

There is also another issue. As panicking army leaders flee, what will become of the weapons of mass destruction they take with them or leave behind? We clearly do not know where all these weapons are, so we will not be able to seize them instantly. In the chaos who knows where they will end up.

I have not really seen a good alternative to war from the Europeans, but it is still true that our plan is imperfect. The dissent, although probably mistaken, is understandable.

[brewcrew]

There's some of this: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

And there's some of this: Wait until some of the Iraqi regime's WMD record keeping is uncovered.

[geedee]

I have no love for the protestors, none. But it's every American's right to voice their displeasure with the government . . . but I add a "specific" caveat to the situation we now find ourselves in.

Everyone says this will be a "NEW" war in Iraq . . . hi-tech, low civilian casualties, etc. But the point remains . . . WE'RE IN A DAMN WAR!!! My problem with all the protesting . . . ESPECIALLY THAT BEING DONE BY AMERICAN PROTESTORS . . . is that we have 250,000 warriors in the field. In World War II these protestors would've been arrested and tried for sedition. But then we had all the hippie protests during the Vietnam War and it suddenly became "chic" to dishonor your country and her warriors.

I say we should go back to ancient and honorable times. All these protestors are doing . . . and I add France, Germany, etc. to the mix . . . are aiding and abetting our enemies and history and the American people should judge them accordingly.

The Democrats are taking their lead from all the foreign anti-Americanism. In fact, to them, it proves the worthiness of their cause. I say, BULLSHIT!, when the rest of the world is against us, that is when we must come together as Americans. That is when your true character is told.

I never, NEVER agreed with Pee Wee Clinton when he ordered the military to take on his foreign adventures -- as meek as they were -- but neither I nor anyone I know protested them while American warriors were at risk. And, even then, I would've wrestled any foreigner who called America the names they're calling her now.

The protestors are showing their cause is not peace, their cause is simply a cause of opposition. And the Democrats are proving they are no different than the Belgian government. I pray the middle-of-the-road Americans remember these days come November of 2004. In a fair and just world, these traitors will be dealt with at that time. In a fair and just world traitors like Teddy Kennedy would be shot by a firing squad. All his blustering and blabbering does is cost American lives by making our enemies think we don't have the stomach for a fight. Our warriors have the stomach for it. To all those doubters I say, "Stand back and watch, suckers. You'll see what happens when right and might joins an American soldier righting wrongs done to their country and countrymen."

I also say the rest of us have the "stomach for it." We do . . . the hard working Americans who make the United States what she is . . . but the silver-spooned, political royals like Teddy Kennedy who has never worked a day in his life will never have the stomach for fighting for their principles. He has none. Principles? Teddy Kennedy? Surely, you jest. Not unless it floats in the bottom of a bottle of gin. A coward who abandoned, then allowed a lovely young lady to drown in a canal . . . Kennedy knows squat about principles. Or patriotism.

History is looking down on us all. Stand tall, America. I pray to God you'll stand tall.

[oregon conservative]

France, Russia, China and Germany are our enemies and are communists. The USA stands for freedom and those who oppose us want to rule the world and want the USA to fail. Within our borders these commies occupy the democrat party. They oppose freedom and common sense. When a democrat administration lobs missiles or does something militarily, you don't hear these leftist complain at all. But when a Republican president takes a stand of course the communists will oppose him. We have more to fear from those enemies within our own country than those from without.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The reason is simple: The left is void of real ideas or core values so they are forced to obstruct or protest anything conservative and any politician with an (R) behind their name.

NOW, the NAACP, the AFL-CIO, Hollywood, and other traditional liberal groups are as predictable as rain in Spring. Their current behavior should not surprise anyone.

To me, the behavior of our traditional European allies is more troubling and confusing...

[RGSpincich]

After 9/11 the Democrats subtly started a smear campaign aimed at President Bush. They said he knew that terrorists had plans to attack the US and did nothing about it. Needless to say, President Bush and the Clinton infected federal agencies had no idea it could happen. Well hello Dimwits, NOW he knows that the terrorists are in Iraq, among other places, and he plans to do something about it. What is the problem?

[RJL]

Is it possible that they have sold Iraq various contraband? Perhaps. Yet a more accommodating attitude toward the US would be likely to lead to the suppression of such information. Their current course seems to encourage the very opposite.

I read a report stating Saddam was blackmailing Chiraq regarding illegal French exports to Iraq and it makes sense.

While France might convince the US to bury their illegal and immoral actions, once a French backed Iraq war started, there would be no way to stop Saddam from making Chiraq's and France's treachery known.

It's easy to understand France's position. After 8 years of inspections Clinton was bought off and the inspections were halted. Chiraq figured that was virtually the end of the sanctions, so why not make some money with his old dear friend Saddam?

It would have worked just fine, except when 9/11 happened the US had a true American as President and George Bush didn't just talk a good game he meant it. President Bush went after the terrorists and it led to Saddam.

Now Chiraq has to take any measure to protect himself and France too. The fact that it is destroying relationships, dividing old allies and pointing out the futility of the UN doesn't matter to Chiraq as he tries to cover the whole thing up.

[boris]

All of the above, plus they prefer that terrorists fly aircraft into American skyscrapers instead of their own.

--Boris