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The Savage Nation Debut Program (5:00 EST) Live Thread
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Posted on 03/08/2003 12:02:51 PM PST by dersepp

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To: 666beast
All he needs to do is go on air and talk about Larry "Seltzer", The Red Diaper Doper Babies and Susan Saran-wrap. And the libs will have a fit!

Nobody ridicules the left like Savage... He kills them with comedy.

321 posted on 03/08/2003 10:41:08 PM PST by jd777
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To: dersepp
Finished watching my tape of Michael Savage's premiere.

Preface: Being from the San Francisco area, I've heard Savage pretty much from the start. Interesting to listen to while driving home, sometimes spot on, sometimes off the wall. My very first protest was when Savage had a rally in support of the California Civil Rights Initiative (Prop 209), passed by the majority of voters but blocked by thuggish judge Thelton Henderson. I thank him for that and now Prop 209 is the law of this land (even if state and local governments keep skirting the law). Lately though, my interest in Savage has waned as Savage has a way of alienating people who he should be allies with in the fight to wipe of leftistism. My opinion is that this TV show venture won't last too long, but I wish him well anyway.

As already pointed out, this show was essentially his radio show on television. The only added feature was an ability to use video clips. The visuals don't bother me as much, but television is a visual medium and that's important to many viewers. Without any additional hook, I might as well be Freeping on the 'net while Savage is on in the background. And the constant book plugs need to lessen. Rush was never that bad. But the worst thing to me was that it was boring, but maybe that's because I've heard Savage's schtick for many a year and I was getting nothing new. I'd be interested to see how the Michael UnSavage character would work.

Now to compare this venture with other conservative ventures...

Dr. Laura - While Michael Savage hasn't altered his transition from one medium to the other, Dr. Laura did for her talk show venture. It was essentionally the standard topic-of-the-day talk show that has been done before, only with Dr. Laura doing it. Dr. Laura wasn't going to win over the hateful left that had targeted her show. And those that loved to hear her radio show for whatever reason, those who needed advice or those that loved to hear her rip into confused callers, just didn't show up for her Neilson ratings. I attended on of her tapings and thought she was decent, friendly, professional, and humorous. The show itself was adequate in itself but doomed from the get-go.

Rush's TV show was fabulous. That was my first exposure to him and I'm not the only one I'm sure. Even when shuffled to hours where I had to tape it, it was a great mix of humor and information, with an appreciative studio audience. The only problem with the show was too short. Cut the commercials out and it's just 22 minutes; cut out audience applause and maybe it's just 15 minutes of meat and potatoes. Still great fun though. Wish I could have gone to a taping.

The Alan Keyes show was good-to-great. I'm a big fan of Dr. Keyes' philosophy. The show went through one tinkering in format during its run and later got a bit bogged down in the Middle East issues (I wanted more domestic issues myself), but still good information.

322 posted on 03/09/2003 2:42:40 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: dersepp
I wish he would sit down and take his coat off. He is getting me nervous. Otherwise I enjoyed the show.
323 posted on 03/09/2003 4:50:08 AM PST by duckman (ta ra ra boom de ay, lets bomb SADDAM today.)
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To: Symix
You see those that are slamming him on this thread are really just upset with the message that Bush was not on fire in his speech the other night and that Bush will not close down the borders and instead allows in illegals and then lets them stay, not to mention Karl Rove does not like Savage. SO the ones that think the President does no wrong here at FR will always be slamming Savage. Jokes on them America agrees with Savage.... LOL

nytimes bestseller 5 weeks almost like Ann Coulter......
324 posted on 03/09/2003 6:15:12 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: jd777
that's so funny! You're so right.
I really enjoy the liberal name-dropping and name-calling. No one except mike has the guts to do that, so it's no wonder politicians take us as a joke.
Add to that, Nancy "the mask" Pelosi and Barbara "Botox" Boxer.
It's good that he has a face for radio. How much more real can you get than that? In reality, there aren't that many good looking people and even if there were, there wouldn't be enough, You know? You know you're getting the real McCoy with mike because no one would put a mug like that on the air unless they were talented.
btw, i liked the leather jacket and turtle neck...i think he's lobbying for a spot in a Scorsese movie. And why not? I'm sick of hollywood idiots and their hypocrisy. they can either protest "violence" or produce it, but not both.
325 posted on 03/09/2003 7:30:28 AM PST by 666beast
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To: TLBSHOW
Actually Savage's effect in the realm of the "common idea' is far stronger than people recognize -- actually one measure of that is how he stayed off the radar for so long -- actually continuing to do so. The cut of the sharpest blade is not noticed!
326 posted on 03/09/2003 7:34:01 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Actually, actually actually .....
327 posted on 03/09/2003 7:34:55 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
bttt

Savage will call it as he sees it that is what I like about him he is no lock stepper!
328 posted on 03/09/2003 7:45:41 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Patriotic Bostonian
His favorite topic is "how mad he has made the Left."

He's really just a "composite FReeper" with a microphone.

329 posted on 03/09/2003 7:58:22 AM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: dersepp
So you're a "Savage Nation" resident.

(Orwell Was an Optimist)

If I hadn't known it otherwise, I'd've known it from your tagline.

330 posted on 03/09/2003 7:59:59 AM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Samurai_Jack
All I got to say is that anybody that can illicit this type of animosity has got to have some good qualities.

Are you talking about Saddam Hussein, then?

331 posted on 03/09/2003 8:09:57 AM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Illbay
He's really just a "composite FReeper" with a microphone.

What is a "composite Freeper?"

332 posted on 03/09/2003 8:14:35 AM PST by Darling Lili
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To: Darling Lili
About a year ago Rush Limbaugh came up with the notion of a "composite FReeper" (he even had a humorous sketch made up).

This was after several seriously anti-Rush threads had been floating around for days.

A "composite FReeper" was essentially someone who is "perpetually p*ssed-off" and thinks that anyone who isn't as "conservative" as they are is marked for death.

333 posted on 03/09/2003 8:23:16 AM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: Missouri
Savage did an okay job. He just seemed out of place on this first show. A lot of it could be him and Msnbc. I listen to him and agree with him some and disagree with some just like I do with Rush or anyone else. I thought Rush looked better on tv than Savage and more comfortable when he had his show. But Rush's show was better done than this. Oh well just my thoughts.
Brad
334 posted on 03/09/2003 8:58:33 AM PST by bradactor
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To: McCool
SAVAGE ROCKS!!
335 posted on 03/09/2003 9:05:06 AM PST by Spiff
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To: Patriotic Bostonian
..I'm sure all here have heard of the "Peter Principle". Need I say more?...

Yes.

You can (a) apologise to posters on this thread, for your (12+?) smears of this golden opportunity, to get a committed conservative in front of a wider audience, and (b) explain what your real agenda is.

336 posted on 03/09/2003 9:30:26 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Howlin
..this show was dreadful...

He said something critical of the President, then?

337 posted on 03/09/2003 9:35:17 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: 3D-JOY
..why do we have to tear down and devour our own?...

Usually, because we put our egos ahead of the cause.

338 posted on 03/09/2003 9:37:36 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Yes and no! But you nailed it on the head! LOL

I taped it and can tell you what the problem was with the lock steppers! LOL
339 posted on 03/09/2003 9:37:48 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
All things are not directly related to Bush, much as you'd like it to be.

He looked like a deer in the headlights.

Without Bush's help, I might add.
340 posted on 03/09/2003 9:38:52 AM PST by Howlin (Only UNamericans put the UN before America!)
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