Some Evidence on Iraq Called Fake

The Washington Post ^ | March 8, 2003 | Joby Warrick

[AzJohn]

Unfortunately it looks like the U.N. inspectors are correct this time. Also some discussion in the full article about those aluminum tubes.

[Quilla]

Yet the article concludes:

"Powell's spokesman said the secretary of state had consulted numerous experts and stood by his U.N. statement."

Right now, I think I'll believe Powell over an unnamed U.S. source that claims we fell for it.

[Thane_Banquo]

I can picture the next statement by El Baradei:

"The nuclear device fired from Baghdad to Tel Aviv was a forgery. It did not truly exist. Move along. Nothing to see here."

[Dont Mention the War]

I'm having a LOT of trouble believing that US and UK intelligence could possibly be so stupid as to make such basic mistakes in a forgery that a bunch of uneducated UN bureaucrats could spot it. Who do they think we use as forgers, the staff of The Guardian?

If anything, such claims by the UN (which is a known anti-US organization, except when it comes time for the membership checks to be sent in) make the US/UK claims MORE RELIABLE.

[Martus]

I wonder if this will give the anti-war/pro-Saddamers fodder.

[this_ol_patriot]

This was plastered all over my local "paper" this morning, they insinuated that we also did the forging. There was nary a word about the drone and other negative things in the Blix report, just a lot harping on how Bush was dragging us into a Vietman quagmire. All this and more before I even got to the editorial page.

[geedee]

If the UN said the Pope was Catholic, I'd still get a second opinion. And a third. And a fourth. And a . . .

[Iconoclast2]

It would sure be nice if some of our so-called "news" organizations would reproduce the letters and the comparison documents, so that we could make up our own minds.

[AzJohn]

Who do they think we use as forgers, the staff of The Guardian?

They're not accusing the United States or Great Britain of forging the documents. They acknowledge that the documents were provided in good faith.

[ET(end tyranny)]

More here U.N. Inspectors: U.S. Used Forged Reports

[AzJohn]

Right now, I think I'll believe Powell over an unnamed U.S. source that claims we fell for it.

Powell is standing by his comments with respect to the aluminum tubes. According to the article he acknowledge ElBaradei's findings with respect to the documents, which is what I was referring to. I don't doubt that Iraq is trying to acquire nuclear weapons; but unfortunately that particular piece of evidence doesn't appear to hold up.

[liberallarry]

Keep in mind that Britain acknowledged cribbing stuff from a doctoral student's thesis. With the stakes this high everyone is suspect.

[gabby hayes]

Doesn't the truth or falsehood of the charge concern you? Blind obedience is hardly our American heritage.

[nightdriver]

"The nuclear device fired from Baghdad to Tel Aviv was a forgery. It did not truly exist. Move along. Nothing to see here."

Exactly.

Who's to say the Saddam even keeps a nuke inside the borders of Iraq? His son, Uday (sp?), has been seen in N. Korea talking with officials there about something. N. Korea could be brokering one of those new miniature nukes that we taught the chinese to how to make.

[MizSterious]

"Right now, I think I'll believe Powell over an unnamed U.S. source that claims we fell for it."

I'm keeping an open mind, but for the moment, I agree with you. Who is the "unnamed" source? It could be anybody--up to and including the child molesting Scott Ritter.

[FRgal4u]

will WP or IEAE retract this story if we go in Iraq and find all the hidden chambers???

Personally, I don't trust the El baradei guy and his grp...did IAEA certifies Iraq was YEARS away from nukes in 1991...and guess what - they were MONTHS away...

Saddam said, his biggest mistake was he invaded Kuwait TOO EARLY..had he waited, he would have nukes...and yes, the world will be a lot safer then, just because IAEA say so...

both blix and el baradei has all the incentives to claim the US/UK evidence is false, ho wmany body blows these agencies can take before the world finally see the truth..these guys can never verify anything unless the host country decides to do so...these agencies give a false sense of security and a protection blanket for tyrants until it is too late...

could we trial incompetence in the world court..lol..

ignorance is blix

[paws_and_whiskers]

Some Evidence on Iraq Called Fake ....

The inspectors...Hans "Ignorance is Bliss" Blix?

[ConservativeNewsNetwork]

Doesn't the truth or falsehood of the charge concern you? Blind obedience is hardly our American heritage.

There isn't enough information to draw any conclusions based on the truth or falsehood of the claim. Who forged them? How serioues are their allegations? Did we believe they were genuine or realize they were fake but hope no one would find out? Did this just slip through the cracks or was it intentional or was it incompetance?

Unless, of course, you're operating under the assumption that the Bush Administration is corrupt, evil, and stupid, then you don't need to know such pesky details to make up your mind.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

You should have excerpted the part of the article (at least at MSNBC, I think its the same one) that noted the OTHER evidence against Saddam was still there.

[AzJohn]

You should have excerpted the part of the article (at least at MSNBC, I think its the same one) that noted the OTHER evidence against Saddam was still there.

That's the problem with this darn excerpting--sometimes a lot of the article is newsworthy. I took the paragraphs concerning the documents because I hadn't seen that in any other story.