[freedom44]

Maybe according to CAIR but i know millions of Muslims fighting for their freedom and equal rights. I don't have much information on CAIR because i'm not a big fan of arab politics nor funded organizations.

I do, however,have an Iran thread which talks about the massive democratic movements there which are in direct conflict against the theocratic regime. The democratic force is still 'muslim' but similar to us being that they're striving for a strong secular movement. The opposition in 'Muslim' Iran are more pro-American than most Christians in Europe.

The 13 opposition TV stations that beam into Iran from California are formed by Muslims and are so pro-American that they make Liberals look like Nazi's.

I'd suggest you read you up before you bash 'all Muslims'.

Everythings is not 'black and white', one or the another.

[mvpel]

There seems to be evidence that the only way Muslims can run a country that isn't a miserable, oppressive hellhole is to run it on a strictly secular model - take Turkey for example.

But that is in direct contrast to the tenets of Islam, isn't it?