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To: AndyJackson
Your definition of Westerners is rather limited to the Franco-Prussian axis.

Well first, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, Finland and Greece have clearly sided with France and Germany. Second, most governements in Europe which were pro-US a month ago have issued statements clearly indicating that they have decided to turn neutral (but then what should we expect from Berlusconi and the likes?). Blair and Aznar, inside the EU, are the two only real allies left, possibly with Ireland. In "New Europe", every country has now turned mute, except Bulgaria, which is forced to side since it is in the Serurity Council.

The key point is that everywhere in Europe, the public opinion is on the same side, no matter what their governments say. Actually, the french public opinion is paraoxically more moderate than Spain, Portugal, Poland and other "pro-US" countries. I mean, even Britain is more than reluctant: have you read its left papers, such as The Independent or The Guardian lately? And Blair's approval are below the ground.

274 posted on 03/08/2003 5:24:51 AM PST by zefrog
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To: zefrog
Well first, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, Finland and Greece have clearly sided with France and Germany.

And Portugal, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Italy and Ireland are siding with the USA. Also, there is virtually every former Warsaw Pact nation, plus the Baltics.

Second, most governements in Europe which were pro-US a month ago have issued statements clearly indicating that they have decided to turn neutral (but then what should we expect from Berlusconi and the likes?).

Provide evidence of this besides the voices in your head.

Blair and Aznar, inside the EU, are the two only real allies left, possibly with Ireland.

As previously shown, you are clearly wrong.

In "New Europe", every country has now turned mute, except Bulgaria, which is forced to side since it is in the Serurity Council.

Prove it. Just because they aren't reported every day means nothing; only the French would conclude that their opinion has changed in a matter of a couple of weeks.

The key point is that everywhere in Europe, the public opinion is on the same side, no matter what their governments say. Actually, the french public opinion is paraoxically more moderate than Spain, Portugal, Poland and other "pro-US" countries.

Piffle. Your polls show 80% support or greater for Chirac's position. Our polls indicate 75% support for war with a second resolution.

I mean, even Britain is more than reluctant: have you read its left papers, such as The Independent or The Guardian lately?

The Guardian and Indo are the two least read newspapers in the country. It would be like basing your ideas on the opinions of the Americans on the Washington Post.

And Blair's approval are below the ground.

Nonsense. People disapprove of Labour because the economy is weak; the polls so far as the war is concerned are coming around.

You will have to do better. Lying is not a substitute.

Ivan

277 posted on 03/08/2003 5:32:49 AM PST by MadIvan (Learn the power of the Dark Side, www.thedarkside.net)
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