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THE DAILY TELEGRAPH: Twilight of the UN
The Daily Telegraph ^ | March 8, 2003 | The Daily Telegraph

Posted on 03/07/2003 5:17:03 PM PST by MadIvan

Before Hans Blix made his third report to the United Nations yesterday, the foreign ministers and diplomats were glad-handing each other as usual. But their cordiality could not dispel the impression that we were witnessing the twilight of the Security Council. Members have been wrestling with Saddam Hussein's defiance of their resolutions for 12 years. Yet still he co-operates only under duress - in this case, the presence of American and British troops on his doorstep.

At the present rate of progress, the task of destroying his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) could last indefinitely. That does not seem to bother many members of the council, who are more attached to process than effective outcome. The UN Charter confers on the council "primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security". America and Britain have been trying to use that forum to deal with a regime that poses a threat to the stability of the Middle East and beyond. Yet they have been accused of rushing to war for pointing out that Iraq is failing to afford the immediate, unconditional and active co-operation that Resolution 1441, passed unanimously last November, enjoined; and that it should now face the "serious consequences" that the same resolution threatened for non-compliance.

Three of the permanent members of the council, China, France and Russia, have declared their opposition to a sequel to 1441 that would authorise the use of force. They will welcome Mr Blix's assurances yesterday that Iraq has begun to destroy its proscribed al-Samoud missiles, an action that the chief UN weapons inspector described as the first substantial measure of disarmament by Saddam since the mid-1990s; that to them is proof that the inspections are proving effective. They will have also been pleased to hear Mr Blix conclude that, with Iraqi co-operation, it would take months rather than weeks to complete the key remaining tasks; that coincides with their proposal to extend inspections well into the summer before deciding on military action.

They have, however, been overtaken by events. American and British forces in the Gulf are now poised to invade Iraq. On Thursday, George W Bush said that he would force a vote seeking UN support for such a campaign within days, while making clear that rejection would not alter his determination to disarm Saddam. "If we need to act, we will act and we really don't need the UN's approval to do so," he said. "When it comes to our security, we really don't need anybody's permission to do so." Last September, Mr Bush warned the UN that failure to enforce its will would condemn it to irrelevance. On Thursday, he signalled that his patience with the world body was running out. With the notable exceptions of Britain and Spain, the Security Council has failed to appreciate the devastating effect of September 11 on the world's remaining superpower. Jacques Chirac has opted for a debased form of Gaullist anti-Americanism, and Gerhard Schröder has espoused pacifism for domestic electoral advantage. Vladimir Putin, having boldly reached out to America after 9/11, has, unwisely if probably temporarily, allied himself with "old Europe".

The opponents of Washington and its allies set great store by the United Nations. Yet their penchant for procrastination could render that body weaker than ever. Yesterday, America, Britain and Spain presented a revised draft sequel to 1441, giving Iraq until March 17 to disarm, that is, to hand over all existing WMD and all documents regarding past destruction of such weapons. It is now up to the Security Council to show that it can fulfil the purpose for which it was created.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; chirac; devillepin; france; iraq; saddam; securitycouncil; uk; un; us
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
There's a stratfor article on the Russian lean towards the EU:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/859526/posts
41 posted on 03/07/2003 6:33:43 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: Lael
Thanks for that bit of history...always helps us understand the present.
42 posted on 03/07/2003 6:38:23 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG)
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To: patj
Because, just as the declining power of France gains disproportionate international influence from its UN Security Council status, so too does the declining power of Britain gain similar enhancement.

Before I get to that, let me dispense with Spain & Italy (which you didn't mention). It's difficult not to objectively regard Spain's current foreign policy stance as an aberration, attributable to nothing more than Aznar's leadership. His pro-American position regarding Iraq is starkly unpopular in Europe and his party is now trailing the opposition Socialists for the first time since the last election. Spain has elections coming up in March, 2004. Even assuming Aznar's party manages to hold on - a dubious proposition at the moment - his successor (Aznar says he will not stand for office again) is very likely to realign himself firmly with France & Germany.

Italy, even more so than Spain, has traditionally been a strong partner in the Franco-German vision for a united Europe. Much like the Spanish situation, the current Italian stance has been almost entirely a product of Berlusconi's personal inclinations, and even at that a weak distancing. In other affairs, Berlusconi has been working as closely as ever with Chirac and Schröder toward advancing their vision of Europe; he has also stated recently that the U.S. must secure a second UN resolution authorizing war in Iraq. Much like a couple other states usually close to the Franco-German core, Italy's actions seem more driven by difficulty coming to terms with the transatlantic rift, rather than any genuinely resilient realignment away from France & Germany.

So, back to Britain. For a variety of reasons - fully acknowledged by Tony Blair, I might add - Britain cannot afford to remain forever outside the eurozone. The details are rather lengthy and in themselves peripheral to this topic (if nothing else, then let's just say that's my view of things). Britain will be compelled to make a choice, sooner or later, between staying right outside the EU door or fully integrating within the eurozone. Indeed, that's Blair's uppermost priority once this Iraq situation has been resolved, which he by every account intends to focus the remainder of his administration upon.

Now, if you say that the Security Council will be consigned to history, the next step is to look at where, precisely, states will then seek international stature. In particular, when making a relative assessment such as that between France and Britain (both declining powers in the grand scheme) then clearly the most immediate forum is the European Union. First of all, France has both a larger absolute economy and a greater population than Britain (many have lately lost sight of the fact that France is the 4th largest economy in the world). When combining France and Germany (the 3rd largest economy) the British economy isn't even in the ballpark, either by population or economic leverage.

Otherwise, one must consider the immediate aftermath of a resolution to the Iraqi situation; the impact on Blair's political viability. More likely than not, a successful campaign will invigorate his political capital, which he'll turn right around and invest into ushering Britain into the eurozone. On the off-chance that his position is crippled, then there's every likelihood that his Labor successor will prove far more favorable to the EU, not less so. Finally, a long-range enhancement of the EU at the expense of the UN in the geopolitical order most elevates the stature of Germany, over the long-run.

In short, by losing its position at the UN, Britain loses one of the two primary pillars of its international standing. The other is its "special relationship" with the U.S., but it's important not to overemphasize the long-range significance of that. First of all, as already stated, a Labor successor to Blair is likely to prove closer to the Continent and far more distant from America than has Blair. Secondly, one way or another, the current relative emphasis on military affairs will get resolved (for better or worse) at which point attention will swing rapidly back to economic orderings. Third, its important, as I already alluded toward, not to overlook the impact of a Germany unleashed from NATO & the EU.

But, that's a discussion for another thread, so I'll stop here (I think I'm beginning to ramble somewhat.. ;)

43 posted on 03/07/2003 6:43:32 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: patj
His pro-American position regarding Iraq is starkly unpopular in Europe and his party is now trailing the opposition Socialists for the first time since the last election.

This should read:

[Aznar's] pro-American position regarding Iraq is starkly unpopular in Europe amongst Spaniards and his party is now trailing the opposition Socialists for the first time since the last election.

44 posted on 03/07/2003 6:46:03 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: patj
Third, its important, as I already alluded toward, not to overlook the impact of a Germany unleashed from NATO & the EU.

*sigh* I should've previewed those remarks. This should read: its important, as I already alluded toward, not to overlook the impact of a Germany unleashed from NATO within the EU.

I was about to get into a discussion of how Germany's not inconsiderable military budget is currently submerged into NATO as well as how its profile would be enhance by the elevation of the EDF, within Europe, versus the current primacy of both NATO & the UN (in their respective spheres). That's when I stopped myself, since that's an involved topic in and of itself...

45 posted on 03/07/2003 6:55:43 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Leto
well said!
46 posted on 03/07/2003 7:05:21 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (Let's get this war on already !!)
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To: XJarhead
Read the new Brit resolution carefully. It does not specifically authorize military force. The French could vote in favor of it, or even abstain, and not break a pledge.


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France and others have chosen to ignore resolution 1441 and its intent even after they voted for it. they have chosen to ignore the evidence that Colin Powell gave on feb 5 proving the iraqi deceptions. .. it's not a stretch for France to ignore the wording of the new resolution and vote against it even if it just restates the obvious.

The bottom-line is that France wants Saddam to stay in power at all costs. Even the cost of disarmament of Iraq.
47 posted on 03/07/2003 7:13:09 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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To: MadIvan
Today many gutless countries grovel before the tyrant Saddam. Appease him and a dozen more will rise behind him. Grind him into fine powder and the world gets the message: "Act like this and you're next."

This will be a different and better world if the United States absolutely devastates the rotten Saddam and his henchmen. It needs to be impressive in a way not seen since August 1945 at Hiroshima. The thought of the full weight of U.S. military might showing up on their doorsteps should make blood evaporate from their sweat pores. Nobody picks on a ruthless bastard who can rain hell upon you.

Let it rain.

48 posted on 03/07/2003 7:16:51 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Dog Gone
More importantly, Iraq knows France will never vote for military action. Any victory France might win in the security council will be Phyrric. Kinda reminds me of Yertle the Turtle.
49 posted on 03/07/2003 7:23:41 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Dog Gone
My question is whether, after the UN and France are thoroughly disgraced, France will start throwing a temper tantrum to get noticed like Kim Jung Mentally-Il of North Korea.

Like refusing to ship us shoddy wine, or threatening to surrender to the N Koreans?

50 posted on 03/07/2003 7:49:39 PM PST by expatpat
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To: AntiGuv
Of course your theory is based on the fact that that UN would not be replaced by another organization of democratic states. The US, Spain, Britain, Japan, Italy, Australia, etc. could form their own organization (invitation only) and merely not ask France or Germany to join. Considering the fact that the first 5 nations mentioned comprise over 50% of the UN budget.......well.....you get the drift.
51 posted on 03/07/2003 8:20:08 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Hugin
I think Powell needs to stay "good cop" -- it may be Bush who needs to tell the UN they're irrelevant.
52 posted on 03/07/2003 8:25:42 PM PST by ellery
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To: Dog Gone
And it leaves the weasels running around hunting for the nine votes to pass it, right?
53 posted on 03/07/2003 8:32:43 PM PST by ellery
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To: McGavin999
Yes, that's correct. I don't think that the current geopolitical order is such that even those six nations you mentioned could agree on the structure of a replacement organization for the United Nations. Keep in mind that both the League of Nations & the UN were formed in the aftermath of devastating conflagrations that united the victors in both purpose and exhaustion. Such circumstances don't exist at the present time.

To be honest, for all this talk of the twilight of the UN, I don't really think it's going anywhere. The UN will probably just get consigned to the backwater of international affairs - such as they are - with economic institutions like the IMF, GATT, World Bank, and G-8 rising in prominence. The United States will conduct military operations on the basis of bilateral, coalition agreements as appropriate for the given conflict. Other nations will modify their military positioning accordingly. In time, many of these global hotspots will get resolved some way or another (hopefully without major power armed conflicts).

The United Nations probably won't get reformed in any meaningful way until the European Union coalesces into some more or less genuinely federalized structure. Until then, it'll focus on those humanitarian & cultural missions about which there's still broad consensus. Essentially, the restoration of its pre-1991 Cold War irrelevance is at hand. Serious diplomatic exchanges will shift elsewhere, during the interim; how exactly, it's still too early to state for certain.
54 posted on 03/07/2003 8:57:07 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: MadIvan
I agree - and there was a story on FR last night about the possibility that Bush and Blair are planning to "suspend" membership in the UN - after they don't get their vote.

If we suspend membership, we could also withdraw our funds - and since we supply 60% of the costs of running the UN - I would say the UN wouldn't have much money to work with.

But ... we would have lots of money to fund a war!!

It's a brilliant plan and again the left has misunderestimated the strategery!!
55 posted on 03/07/2003 9:00:32 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: Hugin
It is already too late. Powell knows that. The issue now is to force the vote so there is a hard record of their positions for all of history. They won't be able to later claim they supported us or the Iraqi people when the war is over and the Iraqis are free. That vote will haunt them for many years to come. It is a smart move by Bush.
56 posted on 03/07/2003 9:06:23 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: AntiGuv
The weakest nations stand to lose the most if the UN eventually becomes a museum in the Hague. Countries like the US, the UK and even France have sufficient national power to safeguard their interests in a chaotic world. In a lawless town, the fastest guns can still walk the streets in comparative safety. It's the delivery boy and the little old lady who gets short shrift.

Those who believe who prefer the demise of the UN to the enhancement of American power through the UN will get the worst of both worlds. The world talking shop in which they had some status will cease to exist and the United States will be free to operate without reference to any pre-existing institutional arrangements. It's the same mistake that unskilled laborers make when they shut down a firm thinking that Mr. Big will be impoverished. They'll be out of a job and impoverished while Mr. Big gets to build another factory in a better industry somewhere else.

But France doesn't mind this, as long as it gets to pick up some of the debris. After all, France glories in being able to dominate the impoverished African countries it calls the Francophile zone and play the big bwana in these pathetic places -- which it keeps pathetic, expressly for the purpose. If France can't be King of the World, it is happy to be the emperor of its own hobo court. And it's looking for a few more members.
57 posted on 03/08/2003 1:56:18 AM PST by wretchard
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To: AntiGuv
I predict France will veto. And this is why.

Among other things, this entire circus at the UN has been an attempt to control the US, to put a limit on its power. While it's been a cynical, maniacal, corrupt, and evil attempt to keep Hussein in power and continue to profit from relationships with him, the situation has also been used by the Axis of Weasels to beat the US into submission. But if these clowns on the SC have the slightest modicum of awareness, they have come to the realization by this point that Bush is NOT bluffing about going into Iraq. And they understand that if the UN tells us we can't go into Iraq, and we do anyway, then it's obvious that the UN cannot control the US or limit its power. From here, they must draw the conclusion that if the UN survives in any shape after that, it survives in a role subservient to the US. Never again can the UN tell us what we can or cannot do. It can only follow where we lead, not the other way around.

In that event, the Axis of Weasels will not want the UN to continue, if the UN cannot control the US and the US calls the shots. So they will destroy the UN themselves. They have gambled everything to enslave the US to their will through the UN... but they overplayed their hand. If the US refuses to be enslaved, then they'd rather there be no UN at all than a UN subservient to the US. So the weasels will kill the UN as a scorched-earth tactic, cut their losses, sever all ties with the US, and devote their energy to building up the EU as best they can under the circumstances.

58 posted on 03/08/2003 7:00:40 AM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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