[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

We need to state our business, clearly make our point, and shut up. Go in and do it, end the politics......All this talk, betting, speculation, BS etc is getting old and can only help the enemy...........

I often feel the same way. But I have come to realize that, given geo-political inter-relationship norms, a certain dance has to be performed. This is because agreement as to moral principles is not as yet harmonized. Probably need another 200-300 years for that. But for now, stong leaders like GWB should and will prevail.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I often feel the same way.

I feel that way very often Tom......

USA#1.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And good luck to you my friend.....