To: Notwithstanding; ArGee
Since women have "Choice" men should also have choice. If a woman chooses to keep a baby then men should be able to choose not to support it. The women would take responsibility for their "choice" and the man would not feel compelled to kill the child or its mother.
This would save so many lives it would be incredible. Until "Roe Vs. Wade" is overturned I don't see how a man can be held responsible for a woman's "Choice" It is HER "Choice" as they have told us over and over. So if said woman is so responsible as to make such a life and death choice then they should not be able to "Force" the man to take the responsibility. After all, it's his life too. In light of R v Wade how can the expect for men to be "Oppressed" by women in this way? It's an outrage, it's immoral, it's Oppression and a form of slavery. Either they overturn R v Wade or absolve men of the responsibility to care for the mother and child financially and/or emotionally.
7 posted on
03/06/2003 12:20:54 PM PST by
Khepera
(Do not remove by penalty of law!)
To: Khepera
Since women have "Choice" men should also have choice. Silly Khepera. It's not about "choice."
It's about power - always has been.
Shalom.
16 posted on
03/06/2003 2:01:53 PM PST by
ArGee
(I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
To: Khepera
You don't understand the law. Maintaining a pregnancy till birth and providing support after birth are two different issues, and the fact that women have unilateral rights on one does not cancel out the other.
The "unfairness" you complain of is the unfairness of mother nature choosing women as the bearers of children.
Men can never be pregnant, and they never bear any physical burden of pregnancy. Women have more control over what happens during pregnancy, because they own the body affected.
After birth, neither men nor women can unilaterally end obligations to the born and living child, (although a unique and stronger biological-based tie persists between mother and child.) Women can be forced to support their child, too.
The law considers a born and living child as a boon.
18 posted on
03/06/2003 2:23:16 PM PST by
SarahW
To: Khepera
the man would not feel compelled to kill the child or its mother.This is quite a statement, but consistent with your theme that men have "no choice."
Men have the choice to abstain from s8x with women they aren't married to. They have to choice to use "protection." Conception is the result of both men's and women's "choices."
A father should be able to prevent an abortion, if he wants to raise his child. Unfortunately, that's not permitted by law. Maybe a few lives could be saved if men counseled their "partners" to choose adoption for their babies. Then there's no financial burden to either ... biological material donor ... can't call these folks parents!
22 posted on
03/06/2003 2:57:20 PM PST by
Tax-chick
(I'm from Oklahoma, the center of the universe.)
To: Khepera
Victimizing children one way does not make victimizing a child another way right. Two wrongs does no make a right.
92 posted on
03/29/2003 8:52:08 PM PST by
Lorianne
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