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To: Tax-chick
Pregnancy and childbirth have serious risks, and it cannot be predicted in many cases who will suffer. I'm glad you never did.

I'm also glad you see that women *also* can't be forced to have an abortion or give up the child's right to support from both parents.

45 posted on 03/06/2003 7:06:42 PM PST by SarahW
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To: SarahW
Pregnancy and childbirth have serious risks ... The reasoning, the syllogism, actually starts a bit earlier, that sexual intercourse carries the risk of a new individual human coming into existence, that that new individual's life support then carries risks for the woman exposed to the possibility of pregnancy and the father ought bear some of the risk of that life support. BTW, I'm not in any way in favor of removing the male responsibility for life support, for the unborn child or the woman giving life support. I'm certainly not arguing that men should have any right to expect the death of an unborn child, from the standpoint of exposing a woman to the real dangers of abortion or the child to the real terminal results of abortion. Abortion is designed to kill an individual human being. Period. That's not a 'right' to be conveyed to a woman to unilaterally decide either. The law ought deal with the protection of individual human life. All, as in the mother and the child and the father, involved in the perspective of supporting life, not 'choosing to kill'.
47 posted on 03/06/2003 8:10:28 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: SarahW
You say women can't be "forced" to have an abortion, but many, many women who do abort feel they have NO CHOICE and feel that they are forced to have the abortion because there are no other options ... they have no support from the man who impregnated them (often, they say "It's your choice, but I'm not going to take care of the kid"); no support from their parents or friends; they are faced with financial responsibilities they never considered, emotional problems they've never faced, and no support structure. They are not given viable options (financial assistance, adoption referrals, etc). They ARE, in a sense, "forced" to abort because they see no other way to handle this situation on their own. Take all this with the physical hormonal changes in pregnancy, it's no wonder women go to the abortion mills in tears thinking they have no choice.

As to support from both parents, my father dumped my mother and left the country so he wouldn't have to financially support me. This was pre Roe v. Wade, but even then, in 1969, my father told my mother to get an abortion. Thank God she didn't ... and thank God she had supportive parents who let her move back home and helped her financially and emotionally for the first year of my life.

Pregnancy and childbirth have risks nowhere near the risks of abortion. The major problem is that the abortionists and their media hacks do everything in their power to minimize the risks, or outright lie, and the risks are, generally, more long-term (breast cancer, inability to conceive or carry a baby to term, and severe emotional anguish to the mother who aborted). Not to mention the women killed during an abortion, or rendered sterile.

But all this begs the point: a child is a child is a child, no matter how small. An embryo is a child ... because that is a human embryo, a human person, in her smallest state. To kill that human person is a barbaric act.

God bless.

64 posted on 03/07/2003 9:30:43 AM PST by Gophack
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