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To: Notwithstanding


From Los Angeles (NY NewsDay):

http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/ny-vpmcc063158949mar06,0,4077140.column?coll=nyc-topheadlines-left

“His own private investigator testified that before Bakley's murder Blake discussed with him his plans to kidnap the pregnant woman, force her to have an abortion and, if necessary, kill her.”



From Pennsylvania (ABC News):

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030306_1036.html

“A man accused of shaking to death his infant daughter, born after he failed to persuade the child's mother to get an abortion, has pleaded guilty to third-degree murder.”



From Rhode Island:

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=7224671&BRD=1713&PAG=461&dept_id=24491&rfi=6

“His arrest ends a crusade by Detective Chip Devine, who learned on July 5 that Andrade repeatedly punched his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach after she refused to have an abortion, police allege.”



From Kentucky:

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/sports/5273418.htm

“Her refusal prompted Magloire to confront Gause, chase her around her parents' home, and drag her by her feet, telling her, "You will have an abortion if I have to take you there in your socks," says the suit, filed in Fayette Circuit Court.”




2 posted on 03/06/2003 11:35:22 AM PST by Notwithstanding (What have you done for LIFE lately?)
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To: Notwithstanding
Although I think these are extreme examples, I think there is quite a bit of pressure placed on women to abort an unplanned pregnancy. I think Patricia Heaton addresses this in her involvement in the pro-life movement.


4 posted on 03/06/2003 11:46:46 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Notwithstanding
Are any of us surprised?

Roe v. Wade has done the reverse of what the pro-abortion feminists claim they were seeking ... liberation. Women have become slaves, and men have become liberated ... liberated from feeling any responsibility for their actions.

It takes a man and a woman to conceive a child, and therefore that child IS the responsibility of both the man and the woman. Putting abortion aside for a moment, even before RvW men turned their back on their pregnant girlfriends. I happen to agree with the small, tiny portion of the so-called women's movement that sought to demand financial assistance from men who walked away. You can't force a man to love his child, but you can require that he help pay for the upbringing.

But today, post RvW, we have men who not only don't think that they should be financial responsible, but IF their girlfriend becomes pregnant, it's HER fault -- and SHE needs to take care of it.

I'm not man-bashing. There are many good men out there who do the "right thing" -- if not marriage, than support. There are many women out there who try and "trap" a man into marriage or support ... even claiming a child is theirs when it's not! And parents who get involved and browbeat their daughters into an abortion, or their son's girlfriends ... I'm sure there are many stories we've heard or personally know.

Anyway, none of these comments should surprise any of us. The weight of abortion rests solely on the woman's shoulders, and her heart. She bares the physical trauma; she bares the emotional pain. She can't talk to anyone about it because, after all, it's "HER CHOICE".

As pro-lifers, we must always work to protect the unborn from torture and death; at the SAME TIME, we need to work to love and help the mothers who keep their babies, as well as the ones who've aborted their children and feel sincere guilt for their actions. These women need our help, our compassion, our love, and to ask for God's forgiveness and mercy so they can get on with their lives and be whole again.

God bless.

13 posted on 03/06/2003 1:08:12 PM PST by Gophack
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To: Notwithstanding
Hey, why shouldn't men have an equal right to murder their unborn children?
23 posted on 03/06/2003 3:00:28 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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