ESTRADA Live Thread- 3/06/03

self | 3/6/03 | RobFromGa

[RobFromGa]

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[mabelkitty]

I thought John F. Kerry was the first Jewish candidate?

[Political Junkie Too]

I am still waiting for somebody to explain to me how Graham can be ON the floor and abstain because of health reasons.

Was that for political health reasons?

-PJ

[mabelkitty]

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[VRWC_minion]

(That is why Republicans must get him confirmed. If they fail, they haven't a prayer of getting any conservative nominee approved. They might as well pack it in.)

False premise. Everthing about logic and reasoning starting from a false premise is total bull $hit so i didn't bother reading the rest of your post. Further, if you don't see what other methods of getting past this impasse are then you should just watch and not comment.

Did you actually think Bush and Frist didn't see this fillibuster coming ? Did you actually think choosing Estrada as the first was becaue he was most important ? Its all strategy. The rats loose either way in a wedge issue such as this. Either they take the hit from their proabortion folks or they take the hit from the hispanics.

The bigger long term prize is the hispanic vote and the longer this goes the better R's will do in next election.

[Howlin]

Evidently!

[CathyRyan]

Are they planning on having any more about Estrada today?

[Howlin]

Do you suppose that people think that cutting and pasting somebody else's words make them true?

If that is the case, I bet I can find a lot of nasty stuff on the internet about Rush Limbuagh, et al..

Would that make them true?

[Howlin]

I don't think so.

[Political Junkie Too]

Lieberman was Jewish longer. Maybe during the primaries, Lieberman can say that Kerry isn't Jewish enough (they like that argument, don't they?).

-PJ

[VRWC_minion]

Almost forget the not so small detail you miss. Their really is no practical difference between being willing and able to use force and using that force. So, in one way I agree with you that the R's are making a mistake by conveying any signs that they are not willing and able to go 24/7, to the extent they do they increase the chances they need to.

[woodyinscc]

"So, the first Jewish candidate voted to block the first Hispanic candidate? I guess that running on being the first of something is no longer an option."


He is a fake and a fraud!

He has his finger in the wind! He will watch his caucus
carefully, and when he sees the crack, will not wait
for the vote, but will call a press conference instead!!

[CathyRyan]

Thanks, I think I will call it a day.

[Howlin]

LOL!

[tuckrdout]

Okay...it went down, I gather. Where do I see the roll call vote? I want to see who voted what..

[TLBSHOW]

I won't bother with this thread anymore... stay on the wrong road with Estrada if you wish as I will go down the right road of which I already stated what it is for a month now. Enjoy the fantasy....

[Howlin]

Take a note: anything that a poster disagrees with is cause to turn tale and run. Evidently facts are like kryptonite to some people.

[deport]

Was Graham on the floor?

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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 108^th Congress - 1^st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion To Invoke Cloture On The Nomination Of Miguel A. Estrada To Be U.S. Circuit Judge )
Vote Number:	40	Vote Date:	March 6, 2003, 10:35 AM
Required For Majority:	3/5	Vote Result:	Cloture Motion Rejected
Nomination Number:	PN6
Nomination Description:	Miguel A. Estrada, of Virginia, to be United States Circuit Judge for the District of Columbia Circuit, vice Patricia M. Wald, retired.

Vote Counts:	YEAs	55
	NAYs	44
	Not Voting	1

Vote Summary

By Senator Name

By Vote Position

By Home State

Alphabetical by Senator Name

Akaka (D-HI), Nay Alexander (R-TN), Yea Allard (R-CO), Yea Allen (R-VA), Yea Baucus (D-MT), Nay Bayh (D-IN), Nay Bennett (R-UT), Yea Biden (D-DE), Nay Bingaman (D-NM), Nay Bond (R-MO), Yea Boxer (D-CA), Nay Breaux (D-LA), Yea Brownback (R-KS), Yea Bunning (R-KY), Yea Burns (R-MT), Yea Byrd (D-WV), Nay Campbell (R-CO), Yea Cantwell (D-WA), Nay Carper (D-DE), Nay Chafee (R-RI), Yea Chambliss (R-GA), Yea Clinton (D-NY), Nay Cochran (R-MS), Yea Coleman (R-MN), Yea Collins (R-ME), Yea Conrad (D-ND), Nay Cornyn (R-TX), Yea Corzine (D-NJ), Nay Craig (R-ID), Yea Crapo (R-ID), Yea Daschle (D-SD), Nay Dayton (D-MN), Nay DeWine (R-OH), Yea Dodd (D-CT), Nay

Dole (R-NC), Yea Domenici (R-NM), Yea Dorgan (D-ND), Nay Durbin (D-IL), Nay Edwards (D-NC), Nay Ensign (R-NV), Yea Enzi (R-WY), Yea Feingold (D-WI), Nay Feinstein (D-CA), Nay Fitzgerald (R-IL), Yea Frist (R-TN), Yea Graham (D-FL), Not Voting Graham (R-SC), Yea Grassley (R-IA), Yea Gregg (R-NH), Yea Hagel (R-NE), Yea Harkin (D-IA), Nay Hatch (R-UT), Yea Hollings (D-SC), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Yea Inhofe (R-OK), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Nay Jeffords (I-VT), Nay Johnson (D-SD), Nay Kennedy (D-MA), Nay Kerry (D-MA), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Nay Kyl (R-AZ), Yea Landrieu (D-LA), Nay Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay Leahy (D-VT), Nay Levin (D-MI), Nay Lieberman (D-CT), Nay Lincoln (D-AR), Nay

Lott (R-MS), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea McCain (R-AZ), Yea McConnell (R-KY), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Nay Miller (D-GA), Yea Murkowski (R-AK), Yea Murray (D-WA), Nay Nelson (D-FL), Yea Nelson (D-NE), Yea Nickles (R-OK), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Nay Reed (D-RI), Nay Reid (D-NV), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay Santorum (R-PA), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Nay Schumer (D-NY), Nay Sessions (R-AL), Yea Shelby (R-AL), Yea Smith (R-OR), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea Specter (R-PA), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Nay Stevens (R-AK), Yea Sununu (R-NH), Yea Talent (R-MO), Yea Thomas (R-WY), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea Warner (R-VA), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Vote Summary

By Senator Name

By Vote Position

By Home State

[deport]

I won't bother with this thread anymore...

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Can you apply that to other threads? Will you?

[Howlin]

Is that the same thing as abstaining?

[IrishRainy]

Miguel Estrada is a Catholic. In order to remain a Catholic in good standing, he has to be Pro-Life.

However, in order to become a judge, Mr. Estrada evidently has to become Pro-Choice, at least according to the RATS.

Of course, one could do as Mr. Estrada has already done -- state that he will uphold the law as written (i.e. Roe v. Wade) and refrain from voicing his personal belief.

However, that is not good enough for the RATS -- A Catholic must now relinquish his faith/soul in order to serve in the public arena.

As a Catholic, I find this appalling. It is now discrimination against religion as well as race, and I feel we should highlight this new bias too -- especially since Catholics are more than 20% of the population.