[tpaine]

-- the founding fathers did not envision government for the sake of the greatest possible freedom to be irresponsible.

My, how inanely profound. - Do you imagine that your comment is some sort of rebuttal to something I've posted?

One of my definitions of a self worshiper is to be an objectivist (holds his personal experience above all else).

Self worship? Who cares about your 'definition'? Again, -- your imagined 'point' is not an issue. Get help.

[unspun]

Talk to the hand, dear tp.