Bad news in the drug war America is waging a phony war on narcotics (O'REILLY FACTOR TRANSCRIPT)

THE O'REILLY FACTOR / VIA EMAIL | 2/21/2003 | THE O'REILLY FACTOR

[cinFLA]

So one can be a libertarian while not being a Libertarian, if you catch my drift.

And would you also agree that one can be anti-drugs but not neccessarily in favor of gestapo methods? The problem I have with the "pro-druggie, anti-WoD" posters here is that their only mantra is legalize drugs and we will be better off while ignoring the problems that legalization would create. Upon being backed into a corner, MrLeroy admitted that hard drugs might have to be delivered via drug stores but TPaine has still not moved away from the position that "ecstasy should be available at the local pizza hut" (my words). Even so, MrLeRoy apparently wants no constraints on who could obtain ecstasy, etc., a position consistent with the LP and the lp as defined by tpaine.

[unspun]

Ok. Then I won't respond. Thanks.

[cinFLA]

Your paranoid fantasies are irrelevant to your dubious claim that my legalize-all-drug posts are what "keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

I still did not say taht your "legalize-all-drug posts" were responsible. Show me where I said that or shut up.

[Cultural Jihad]

Thank you cF.

FReepers, keep an eye out for the doings of the "legalize drugs" lords:

George Soros, John Sperling, Peter Lewis and George Zimmer.

Let's see if it is true that they want to be America's immoral, controlling "Atlas," shrugging over the victims whose livelihoods they rake in.

Spread the word...

[E Rocc]

So what is your solution?

Legalize, tax, and regulate....starting with pot. Allow harder drugs to be dispensed via prescription, like they used to do in the UK. Apply the lessons we learn from pot legalization to other drugs, gradually.

Will this cause new problems? Yes, of course. But right now there are only three options:

1) Effectively enforce the WoSD. This would require sharp abridgement of our civil rights. How many of your rights are you willing to give up to ensure that your neighbor is not, in the privacy of his home, using narcotics? My answer is Zero.

2) Continue our current half-ast level of enforcement. Allow it to continue to enrich the most ruthless criminals in the black market, corrupt law enforcement, and generally degrade public respect for the law. In other words, Prohibition Part II: Let's Try It With Legalized Theft. Unacceptable.

3) Gradually legalize drugs. This will produce its own problems, much like the end of Prohibition did. But IMO these problems will be less intense than the ones we face now.

-Eric

[MrLeRoy]

Appaently Libertarians for Life hold the minority view.

Minority of the LP, apparently; so what?

[MrLeRoy]

You pulled up "Libertarians for Life" but you apparently have a problem when I pull up groups like:

Libertarian socialists
Libertarian communists

You've never posted a URL for any such groups.

[MrLeRoy]

I still did not say taht your "legalize-all-drug posts" were responsible. Show me where I said that

Already done; here it is again:

jmc813, quoted in post 187: "In my idea of the ideal state, pot would be legal, harder stuff wouldn't be."

jmc813, in post 204: "Let's take MrLeroy for example. Nice guy, I enjoy reading his opinions and communicating with him, but our feeling on drug legalization are quite different. He believes all drugs should be legalized."

You, replying in post 236: "He and his kind are hurting your ability to discuss the issue as his antics keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

[_Jim]

The U.S. inexplicably did not destroy the poppy fields in Afghanistan,

From what I've seen of VIDEO from Afghanistan - they're lucky to grow dirt ...

[TLBSHOW]

They have increased growing by 2000% in the last year!

[_Jim]

The U.S. inexplicably did not destroy the poppy fields in Afghanistan,

This also exhibits a FAILURE on Bill's part to understand that not all *drugs* are prohibited in all countries -

- Bill is also exhibting his naivety to 'world cultures' by voicing such simple views ...

[MrLeRoy]

Upon being backed into a corner, MrLeroy admitted that hard drugs might have to be delivered via drug stores

"Backed into a corner"?! ROTFLMAO! I never said otherwise---but your misrepresentations accurately reflect the moral poverty of your cause.

MrLeRoy apparently wants no constraints on who could obtain ecstasy, etc.,

Yet another of your many lies; I have stated a number of times that drugs should not be legal for minors.

[_Jim]

They have increased growing by 2000% in the last year!

You want 'cash flow' - you HAVE to have 'product' to sell in this business!

[TLBSHOW]

That makes sense but we are not talking care bear dolls here we are talking hard core drugs that are so easy to stop.
......
The US army on the borders with Mexico and bomb the almost 40 thousand acres of poppy fields. Simple stuff...

The U.S. inexplicably did not destroy the poppy fields in Afghanistan, and the Bush administration has not moved the military to the borders to back up the Border Patrol as the patrol has requested.

Result: It is business as usual for drug dealers around the country, and some believe America is waging a phony war on narcotics.

BILL O'REILLY

[cinFLA]

I never said otherwise

OH yes you did!

[TLBSHOW]

but we got the bongs yep that will work, NOT

because you can not stop pot but you can stop the poppy fields in a country we control instead of making deals with drug lords.

Simple simple stuff.....

[cinFLA]

You've never posted a URL for any such groups

If you are interested in them, just enter them into your search engine or google. libertarain socialist libertarian communist

[MrLeRoy]

MrLeroy admitted that hard drugs might have to be delivered via drug stores

I never said otherwise

OH yes you did!

Just the latest of your many, many lies.

[MrLeRoy]

You've never posted a URL for any such groups

just enter them into your search engine

I'm not doing your homework for you; YOU make a claim, YOU supply the evidence.

[cinFLA]

Duh! Nowhere did you mention we should work to educate the people to the harm and try for a reduction in drugs! Like the druggies, you just want drugs legal.

As for prescriptions, are you willing to allow extensive testing as all OTHER drugs are required to undergo and then it will be manufactured by a major drug company. Of course, those on a low income or welfare will get it free at taxpayer expense. Your solutions are narrow and short-sighted.