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US 'accepts' idea of nuclear N Korea
iafrica.com ^ | 3/5/03

Posted on 03/05/2003 8:23:37 AM PST by Heartlander2

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To: tonycavanagh
So, they are recognized appeasers at the expense of the security of the United States? If NK sells the plutonium (who knows maybe they already have) to terrorists, frankly I have little interest in the economic state of Korea.

my opinion.
21 posted on 03/05/2003 10:13:35 AM PST by prairiebreeze (One, two, three, dip, two, three. No Blixie, we've decided we don't want to dance with you anymore!)
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To: GOPJ
That may be true. Who knows.
22 posted on 03/05/2003 10:55:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 7, Staterooms As Low As $510 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: GOPJ
That may be true. Who knows. ;)
23 posted on 03/05/2003 10:55:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 7, Staterooms As Low As $510 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: tonycavanagh
A collapsing North Korea will not aid the South Korean economy in fact it could very well drag the South down...

And getting smoked won't drag the South down?????

24 posted on 03/05/2003 11:09:03 AM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: Heartlander2; prairiebreeze; DoughtyOne; onedoug; stimpyone
Citing unnamed officials and analysts, The Washington Post said....

According to The Los Angeles Times, administration officials said in closed briefing

The Post quoted a well-informed US Senate source as saying.

So, all it takes is a bunch of conjecture and leftist make-believe neatly encapsulated from a site named iafrica.com and you guys get your shorts in a bunch.

Of course, it's not like you ever pass up an opportunity to disparage GWB, so why am I surprised? With friends like you guys, who needs enemies?

25 posted on 03/05/2003 11:14:32 AM PST by Cable225
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To: stimpyone
This is unbelievable.

Not really, IMO. Fits perfectly with the ambitious greed of the SDI faction of the military-industrial complex. Before 9/11 the Bush Admin's foreign policy gave much time to getting various nations to accede to the US building a massive star wars plan. Officials spoke of moving money for troops, etc., into this boondoggle - no less than Star Wars was in the 1980's. Same players on the corporate side. They were 'faced with 9/11 and came up with a smaller, land based plan just for Alaska. Allowing NK to proceed will hasten the more ambitious plans, and despite the fact that proliferated weapons won't come to our shores by missiles from NK.

We're facilitating future losses of cities to benefit the SDI faction. Follow the money.

Plus the infiltration of Soviet-style peacenik ideas has disarmed the SK people, making them pliable dupes. They don't care about the rest of the world, and how many will die. They live in a fantasy, but I believe when we pull out they won't be invaded - they will be extorted for more and more money.

The fact they don't want a regime collapse shows they don't want peaceful reunification, and don't want to help the people of the north.

26 posted on 03/05/2003 11:15:39 AM PST by Shermy
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To: stimpyone
Let's just pray this isn't true. Smacking that reactor and reprocessor and a few missile factories now is infinitely better than the world we will face when NK has, say, 150 nukes and the missiles to deliver them.
27 posted on 03/05/2003 11:21:06 AM PST by Williams
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To: Cable225
"Of course, it's not like you ever pass up an opportunity to disparage GWB...."

Well, you're sure wrong on that about me. I don't think Bush is into appeasement. Though if I were wrong about that, I'd sure think he would be wrong about it too.

28 posted on 03/05/2003 11:37:20 AM PST by onedoug
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To: DuncanWaring
Ah yes, let's visit the historical vault from the appeaser-in-chief:




Clinton warns North Korea // Says he'll not allow N-weapons
Steve Komarow

11/08/1993
USA Today
FINAL
Page 05A
(Copyright 1993)


President Clinton - in some of his most strident language to date - warned Sunday he will not let North Korea develop a nuclear bomb.

Clinton , on NBC's Meet the Press, also declined to rule out a pre-emptive strike against North Korea 's nuclear facilities, from which international observers have been banned.

"We have got to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons," Clinton said.
29 posted on 03/05/2003 11:44:15 AM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: Cable225
What in this:

To: Heartlander2

We simply cannot allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons. Proliferation, activation and use are the only two reasons we need. A war with North Korea might
not be pretty, but it'll be a whole lot neater than it would be in ten or twenty years. One or two nuclear strikes is better than twenty or fifty.

3 posted on 03/05/2003 8:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne

Waranted this:

To: Heartlander2; prairiebreeze; DoughtyOne; onedoug; stimpyone

Citing unnamed officials and analysts, The Washington Post said....

According to The Los Angeles Times, administration officials said in closed briefing

The Post quoted a well-informed US Senate source as saying.

So, all it takes is a bunch of conjecture and leftist make-believe neatly encapsulated from a site named iafrica.com and you guys get your shorts in a bunch.

Of course, it's not like you ever pass up an opportunity to disparage GWB, so why am I surprised? With friends like you guys, who needs enemies?

25 posted on 03/05/2003 11:14 AM PST by Cable225
 

1. I did not attribute any policy to Bush.
2. I made no detracting comments regarding Bush.
3. I made no detracting comments regarding a policy of Bush's.
4. I made my own policy statement regarding North Korea.

One comment you made was worth repeating. "With friends like you guys, who needs enemies?"  I think you'd do Bush a favor if you'd wait to trash people on his behalf for something substantive.
 
 

30 posted on 03/05/2003 11:47:02 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 7, Staterooms As Low As $510 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: TADSLOS
That was my thought a while back Nuke North Korea and Iraq and Iran would surrender.
31 posted on 03/05/2003 11:48:37 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: DoughtyOne
US media reported on Wednesday

Ah, where?

32 posted on 03/05/2003 11:55:48 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Heartlander2
In Japan, officials feel their neighbour cannot be stopped from producing a bomb

North Korea probably cannot be prevented from producing a bomb or maybe even two bombs.

The question is: Will North Korea be prevented from building a program capable of producing 200 bombs in the next decade with a missile delivery system capable of delivering them to the U.S.

33 posted on 03/05/2003 12:00:47 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Howlin
To: Heartlander2

We simply cannot allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons. Proliferation, activation and use are the only two reasons we need. A war with North Korea might
not be pretty, but it'll be a whole lot neater than it would be in ten or twenty years. One or two nuclear strikes is better than twenty or fifty.

3 posted on 03/05/2003 8:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne
 

To: DoughtyOne

US media reported on Wednesday

Ah, where?

32 posted on 03/05/2003 11:55 AM PST by Howlin
 

That's a reasonable question, however I'd like to point out that my comments did not reference the statement you quoted.  They simply stated my views on what our reaction must be to North Korea going nuclear, and having the means to deliver WMDs to the United States.

34 posted on 03/05/2003 12:13:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 7, Staterooms As Low As $510 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: onedoug
Well, you're sure wrong on that about me. I don't think Bush is into appeasement.

Maybe, maybe not. You're the one that posted this -

"Appeasement begets new and bloodier wars." --Douglas McArthur

I didn't see any disclaimers with that one. How's it go? "we report, you decide".

35 posted on 03/05/2003 12:34:23 PM PST by Cable225
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To: DoughtyOne
1. I did not attribute any policy to Bush.
2. I made no detracting comments regarding Bush.
3. I made no detracting comments regarding a policy of Bush's.
4. I made my own policy statement regarding North Korea

We simply cannot allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons.

It may be your own policy statement, but you had no problem believing it was true. Not a verifiable statement in the whole article (unless you count the Biden quotes) and you're ready to accept it as gospel.

36 posted on 03/05/2003 12:38:48 PM PST by Cable225
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To: Cable225
"Appeasement begets new and bloodier wars." --Douglas McArthur

No disclaimers. If Bush doesn't agree, then I think he's wrong.

(...Though I think he does.)

37 posted on 03/05/2003 12:48:32 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Cable225
To: DoughtyOne

1. I did not attribute any policy to Bush.
2. I made no detracting comments regarding Bush.
3. I made no detracting comments regarding a policy of Bush's.
4. I made my own policy statement regarding North Korea

We simply cannot allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons.

It may be your own policy statement, but you had no problem believing it was true. Not a verifiable statement in the whole article (unless you count the Biden
quotes) and you're ready to accept it as gospel.

36 posted on 03/05/2003 12:38 PM PST by Cable225
 

I expressed no opinion regarding this article, so these thoughts are nothing more than conjecture on your part.

When you get through dealing with your own misperceptions, you might want to come back and ask me what I think regarding this article and Bush's policy regarding North Korea.  I didn't address that either.

38 posted on 03/05/2003 1:04:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Freeper Caribbean Cruise May 31-June 7, Staterooms As Low As $510 Per Person For Entire Week!)
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To: Just mythoughts
"Why do you think China, how about Russia?"

I was hungry when I posted- its the take-out.
39 posted on 03/05/2003 5:20:55 PM PST by ffusco ("Essiri sempri la santu fora la chiesa.")
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To: stimpyone
The stage is rapidly being set for the emergence of another Steve Forbes or Pat Buchanan to challenge Bush in 2004. Bush is selling us out.

LOL! Maybe this time there'd be a candidate that would actually challenge him!

40 posted on 03/05/2003 5:29:48 PM PST by The Coopster (I've got you're global warming........)
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