Posted on 03/04/2003 1:16:38 PM PST by Cagey
I would have to disagree from a very, very technical standpoint. Both have studbooks and although provisional registration is still available the Class I mares and Approved stallions are pretty much a closed set now. Both breeds are newer than say the Trakehner (which have been branded for years) or Hannoverian (which now requires six generations and the brand) but you can pick 'em out of a lineup.
Swedish Warmblood Registry Basics
I heard from my trainer that the Swedish studbook is going to be closed in the near future. She is very gung-ho about Hannoverians and Trakehners as 3-day event horses. (I am a T'bred person myself.)
This "vet" or "ex-vet" is clearly unhinged. Any old racetrack hot walker or any gypsy for that matter could tell you how to change the markings on a horse. Or "doctor" the teeth for that matter. And Rustoleum isn't how.
Yes, they come with papers. Each "approved" horse is assigned a number and the foals have breeding certificates issued at the time of foaling. Most of the warmblood breeds also get a brand - the Trakehners have a set of antlers on the shoulder, the Hannoverians a stylized "H".
If you don't have a breeding certificate or pedigree, I would think the horse would sell for 1/4 its value with "papers". You can sell a horse on "looks", movement and performance to some degree, but you will never get the money you could with the papers, because the pedigree gives breeding value. But this woman is so "out of it" that I don't think she even considered these factors. I mean -- Rustoleum???
Of course, papers can be faked for the gullible buyer . . .
They ARE big, and they ARE powerful. The Dutch Warmbloods have a strong farm horse (Gelderlander) background, so compared to the Swedish Warmbloods they are more harness-horse looking - although that's being bred out as the eventing horses are picking up the big money now.
The warmbloods as a whole don't seem to be as flighty as the Thoroughbreds, although you can always pick two horses out that prove the rule. One of my trainer's Trakehners is just evil-tempered (we blame it on her sire, the Olympic competitor Abdullah who was a notorious bad boy) and she also will get away from you competing or hunting, while my T'bred mare is incredibly tractable and reliable at all times and places. T'breds are also renowned for never giving up no matter what. If you pointed my mare at the barn she would try to scramble over it. (Maybe that means she's stupid, but you have to exercise judgment when riding a T'bred because she will go until she drops in her tracks.) Mine won't get there in a hurry, though, she's beautiful but she was sold off a racehorse farm as a yearling because it was already apparent that she couldn't catch cold.
There are some Russian horses, with a good deal of Arab blood, who have done pretty well in eventing, but it's not really an Arab discipline.
The warmbloods do extremely well in dressage, but the T'breds will often catch up in the cross country and the stadium jumping. At the highest levels, the best warmbloods are winning, but the T'breds are always there. At MY level (Tadpole - 2nd baby level) we don't do well in dressage because my girl doesn't have a lot of impulsion and fire on the flat, but we catch up in cross country and pull ahead in stadium. I was a hunter-jumper rider for years and years, so I'm most comfortable in the ring. My mare jumps like silk too, smoothly out of her stride and nicely balanced. Not fast, but her efficiency makes up a lot of time. And she has only refused with me once - at a really gnarly ditch combination that she had never seen the likes of before! (Partly my fault - I didn't like the looks of it either, and she knew it! We came around again and picked our way through.)
I'll let you off this time, Mr. White Man, but your risking a summons from the PC police for using an out-of-date sexist term. I suppose you still call Katherine Hepburn an "actress" instead of "actor".
As a real person she's entitled to be called a "murderer".
Hair dye works better, and isn't toxic. There were six different horses used in making "The Black Stallion", and they all needed a bit of "touch up" here and there. Of course, it's only a short-term fix.
I don't know much about designer warmbloods, except they cost a lot, and I don't see too many at the schooling-level local dressage shows. Some people think they're a "secret formula" for winning. Getting one cheap might seem a great deal, but the higher you go, the more paperwork you have to provide. Or maybe it's the same appeal that stolen art has for some people, where you can only enjoy it in secret.
A friend has an arab stallion, and is always afraid he'll be stolen because he's so friendly, and will gladly get in anyone's horse trailer. He associates horse trailers with fun things like dressage shows, and as a grey, he has no permanent distinctive markings except for a snip on his nose. She's still debating between getting him a lip tattoo or a biochip.
You're forgetting the feminine form that we can create with the "-ix" suffix, a la "dominatrix". In this case, I suggest "lunatrix"...
A useful word, besieged as we are by lunatrices.
Animal cruelty, theft, burglary, murder - the lady liked to dip her beak into a little of everything, I guess...
The EU required all British horse owners to apply biochips to their horses so they can be acceptable as meat for the French market. Another reason I hate the French.
Leni
But ya gotta watch your brand. Certain brands will turn horses green and all sorts of other weird colors not found in nature.
My horse is jet black except for one white heel and a few white hairs on her forehead in the shape of a crescent moon. She never raced (bwahahahaha) so she doesn't have a lip tattoo. She's always ready to load, 'cause she used to be a broodmare at one point in her checkered career so she always thinks when she sees a trailer that it's Time for Romance. I HAVE touched up her tail when it got too much sun . . . but I'll never tell how. :-D
Oh, what the heck. Here she is in all her glory:
Sorry about the saddle mark. She is a little down in the back, but then she's 16. It's amazing when I look at her how much she's bulked up in the chest and withers since we started doing dressage. Lot of muscle on her second thigh too.
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