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Pope Steps Up Anti-war Crusade With Call For Christians To Fast
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Posted on 03/04/2003 11:42:42 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: habaes corpussel
What did most of you think he would say?Oh I don't know, maybe 'Nothing'!.
Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
To: RCW2001
Sure makes you wonder who's side "the pope" is on doesn't it.
To: MNlurker
My feelings exactly. Just as I am trying to figure-out what mass my family will attend tomorrow, there is another assinine message from the Pope. Personally I don't think these messages come directly from him. I think that the group of euro-idiot-priests in the Vatican have formed a "think-tank" to come-up with most of the Pope's statements.
This is also a matter of history repeating itself. The Pope and the Church chose to ignore Hitler and his minions, even as Catholics were being slaughtered.
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03/04/2003 12:30:00 PM PST
by
all4one
To: habaes corpussel
That would be an enlightened statement considering what's been coming out of the Vatican lately.
To: smokeyjon
NOt all churches feel as the pope does. Only catholic it would appear.
To: Psalm 73
That comes as no surprise to me. This is common knowledge in my circle.
To: goodseedhomeschool
Sure makes you wonder who's side "the pope" is on doesn't it.
I think he's doing what he believes is right. "Do unto others" and such.
I am a Christian, and I refuse to buy in because I would argue the opposite.
"Do unto others" can quickly become "Pearls to pigs" if one is not careful.
In this scenario, the "pigs" do not appreciate the "pearls" then turn and tear the giver to pieces.
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03/04/2003 12:35:21 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
("HI, I'm Johnny Knoxville and this is FReepin' for Zot!")
To: habaes corpussel
Well considering the fact that the catholic church had no problem fighting the muzslimes during the crusades, one would think the pope could see that fighting is the only way we can deal with the same killers as before. I would think he would not only support AMerica, but offer his help too. When one realizes that the world and it's safety are at stake here. I agree that praying is good of course, but for every thing there is a season, and it is not the season for allowing muzslimes to keep on killing innocents.
To: Robe
First of all our president is doing a great job protecting. I wonder how many of those innocent people who died on 9-11 had not been saved yet and their time was cut short. They deserved a chance to know the Lord as any of us do. Has the pope thought about that.
The pope is "one righteous dude", to quote radio host Brian Wilson.
He has an opinion like everyone else and has the right to express it.
As far as church teaching goes, he is considered infallible on matters of faith, I.E. when he says that your sins are forgiven, they are.
When he says to fast to remember the suffering in Iraq, and you disagree, great. Fantastic. That ain't part of the faith and he can be wrong.
We don't need a new and improved Catholic Church...Actually we need the old one back!
To: Jhoffa_
well he can do what he thinks is right, providing his age has not incapacitated him from thinking at all. America is doing what she thinks is right. Since the pope is not the president, I think I will let GW take care of it. God will ultimitly decide it all in the end anyway.
To: RCW2001
Jesus was NOT a pacifist. Why have the leaders of some Christian churches let themselves become infected with pacifism?
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03/04/2003 12:40:54 PM PST
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FirstTomato
(If I think of a tagline, you all will be the first to know!)
To: AngryAmerican
no man is infallible!
To: alisasny
I was thinking the same thing - Something's not adding up here - it doesn't sound at all like JP is calling the shots on this one.
To: habaes corpussel
The pope is a wonderful man.... 1) OK. This has nothing to do with whether he's right or not.
2) I question how much he really knows about what's going on in the world at this point in his life. And I question how many of these statements are actually made by the pope, and how many statements are made by his "Sec'y of State" and those controlling him.
...and he is doing what he believes is right.
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, even for popes. His beliefs--unclouded by any rational thought--should be of no interest to anyone, not even members of the Church of Rome. He's not speaking Ex Cathedra, after all.
What did most of you think he would say? Bomb them and let God sort them out?
The implication in your post is despicable. And, it is wrong: American politicians, war planners, and soldiers are going to sacrifice a considerable amount of treasure and a significant number of American lives in order to guarantee that we not God separate the bad people in Iraq from the good ones.
In contradistinction to this oh-so-moral leader, Americans are willing to put their lives on the line in order to rid the world of this evil, and to liberate people denied the rights granted them implicit in their humanity as a gift from God.
Luckily, Americans are neither as cloudy about their moral obligations, nor as impotent in their exercise as the people writing speeches for the pope.
To: AngryAmerican
Exactly. Everybody needs to keep that in mind.
Besides, it would more than a little bit weird to have a pro-war pope.
"Kill them all and let God sort them out, my children. Amen."
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03/04/2003 12:43:03 PM PST
by
dead
To: goodseedhomeschool
no man is infallible! I know one that was, is and always will be...
To: conservonator
Me too His name is Jesus Christ. Not pope
To: Overtaxed
Exactly, Wednesday is an obligatory fast day for Catholics over the age of 14. Who writes these articles, anyways.
Reminds me of the reporter reporting a week before Christmas that the Baby Jesus must have been stolen from the manger in the town square. Duh...
At least, do your homework, reporters.
To: goodseedhomeschool
Do you think Catholics believe that the Pope is infallible?
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