[a_Turk]

I am afraid the fat lady has sung..

You've still got rights to use the air bases though.. That's probably salvagable without actually having a pouring out of LUV and coming to a full alliance sort of partnership agreement. We both have to preserve our manhood (/sarc) afterall..

You guys are strong and magnificent babes in those woods full of old wolves. I don't know how else to put it.

[William McKinley]

Yep.

[colorado tanker]

That's probably salvagable without actually having a pouring out of LUV and coming to a full alliance sort of partnership agreement.

Actually, I wouldn't rule that out, depending on how badly Franks and Rumsfeld want a northern front. That division worth of equipment floating off the Turkish coast will be pretty useless without one.

I would echo the pro-Turk opinions on this thread. Conservatives who have followed this know how important Turkey has been as a US ally in NATO and the defacto US/Turkey/Israel alliance.

[browardchad]

You guys are strong and magnificent babes in those woods full of old wolves. I don't know how else to put it.

a_Turk, it's good to see you in a better mood today; we are "babes" in the sense that we're just now waking up to discover that a great deal of the bs we've accepted for so long about foreign policy is indeed just that.

Don't take all the abuse hurled Turkey's way on some of these threads as personal -- nerves are frayed on both sides of the ocean, the world is, in many respects, gone bonkers, and what we thought was a safe distance from the eye of the storm now turns out to be staring us in the face. We've got a lot of re-thinking to do.

Stay safe.