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To: WOSG
Regarding the Kurdish genocide, I'm sorry but yawn. We did nothing about the Tibetan genocide, the Cambodian, the South Vietnamese, Laotian, etc. We use the term for political action and convenience. If we were serious about the term "genocide" we would demand war crimes trials for the former Soviet agents in charge of the mass slaughter in their gulags; but then that would eliminate all of the people currently in power ruling that part of the world. Save the preaching for a street corner. I'm a cynical old vet who's seen too much to care much else except for our interests at this point in my life.
169 posted on 03/02/2003 4:19:22 PM PST by Beck_isright (going to war without the French is like duck hunting without an accordian)
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To: Beck_isright
I agree with your sentiments, and love your tag line.

It would be so refreshing if our government acted in our interest for a change.

170 posted on 03/02/2003 4:51:11 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Beck_isright
I gotta shake my head at that... I am almost angry at your term about 'political convenience' as if 200,000 human lives are just a talking point. ggrrrr.

If we cant stand up to to one wrong, we cant stand up to other wrongs, you say.
Yet you wont stand up to this wrong. So I come back later and talk about North korea and you'll conveniently say 'heck, we didnt do anything about them kurds, why start now??"

So, in the end, you will do nothing here ... and everywhere.

And the evil doers will have one more lever to destroy freedom unhindered.

That's like saying homocide police are useless since you cant catch all the murderers

There is another way: recognize that *ALL* the Communist regimes and tyrants are evil *because* they do this kind of crap, *then* use our power to end it. Recognize that it is their regimes of violence that spill over into hurting our nation
Guess what - we will NEVER catch Joe Stalin .. too late.. he died... but it's not too late for Castro,, Mugabe, Kim jong Il, and *saddam*.

"the Cambodian, the South Vietnamese, Laotian" note that the same idiots who are saying we should do nothing now ensured defeat in those nations, which led to said crimes against humanity. The Left was wrong - again.

"I'm a cynical old vet who's seen too much to care much else except for our interests at this point in my life. "
Sad if true. You are "shocked into impotence", like Powell said of the French. Our *interests* demand ending genocide worldwide, and getting tyrants like Saddam out of power, and democratizing countries that before have supported terrorism. Our ideals and our interests are aligned!!! What interests do we have, anyway? Freedom? You think our freedoms are more secure with tyrants colluding out there? of course not. they hate us for our freedom, and actively undermine it. We can end it one tyrant at a time. It's not like you have to do everything to do good; you just have to stop the evil and tyranny that you can, before it grows like a cancer to threaten us directly. "Yawning" at 500,000 kurds killed through Saddam's genocide is just a step away from ignoring threats that could kill 200,000 Americans.





174 posted on 03/02/2003 8:01:00 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq!!)
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