Chinese Fossil Beds Astound Paleontologists

Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 2/21/03 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

[CalConservative]

I think it would be great to put together a field trip to China to tour a lot of these fossil sites. Anyone game to look at the possibility?

[CalConservative]

**Chinese Fossils Ping**

[You Gotta Be Kidding Me]

Sadly, Chinese dissidents will become the fossilized remains for future study.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[js1138]

dino feathers placemarker.

[Havoc]

In other words, they've found evidence of a massive catastrophe, want to say it's volcanic but can't presume to explain the basalts and silting with a far away volcanic blast, and another set of theories has run aground on evidence that mucks up their postulations causing them to run about formulating new baseless theories to fill in where the old unproven theories used to be. The house of cards shifts and wiggles while they prop it up again and people are supposed to have confidence in these people who keep blabbing on about an ever changing pack of unproven theories. It's no wonder people want intelligent design, creationism and other alternatives taught. No confidence in paid hacks that couldn't identify a road if they were driving on it..

[Mike Darancette]

“The fossil-bearing tuffs at this locality lack obvious bedding planes, suggesting that this deposit resulted from a single, catastrophic mass mortality event.”

In addition, from their map, the catastrophe apparently occurred over a vast area. The Yixiang and Jiufotang formations cover half of China, southern Japan, all of Korea, and most of Mongolia.

What a remarkable opportunity to see a snapshot of life as it existed at one short period of time over 100 mya.

The size of the formation is quite large for an single explosive volcanic event there should be evidence in other parts of the world of such an event.

[ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds]

they also found the evolutionary link between primates and humans but they don't publicize it because it might upset some with religeous mythology that refutes that possibility

[The Shootist]

No. It's obvious. All those animals were killed in Noah's flood. Yeah. That's it, that's the ticket.

Any other good ghost stories?

[blam]

"The size of the formation is quite large for an single explosive volcanic event there should be evidence in other parts of the world of such an event."

Pompeii comes to mind.

[bethelgrad]

I hope you are kidding. Hard to tell on this forum sometimes. If they had any hard proof of link between primates and humans it would be broadcast all over the place
despite those who hold to creation myths.

[Havoc]

Didn't bring it up. They said it was a huge catastrophe - the very thing they bat at and dismiss out of hand as quackery at the drop of a hat. At the same time they start hypothesizing in midsentence that which will be halucinagenic theoretical fact by tomorrow till they screw up and find something else that screws that one up and have to make up something else the day after tomorrow. So, I guess in their search for theoretical truth they've resorted to quackery and you attack the person that points it out because you have no real response to the facts. Well, gee, who'da thunk it.
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[gcruse]

It's no wonder people want intelligent design, creationism and other alternatives taught.

The nature of inquiry is based on realizing that it is a work in progress, else it is no inquiry but a given.  The amazing thing to me is what mindless, superstitious, hallucinatory 'givens' these same people are willing to accept  so they won't have to think anymore.

[Mike Darancette]

Pompeii comes to mind.

Half the size of Asia? -- Yellowstone x 5 comes to my mind.

[capitan_refugio]

I have worked in tuff deposits before, in the area around Bishop, Mono Lake, and Mammoth, CA. The problem with tuffs is that a "single event" in the geologic record might actually have happened over several months or even years. Take the case of a hypothetical ash vent in the Long Valley Caldera (Mammoth area). It might blow ash for a long time, with the deposited ash not showing much of any "bedding," grading, or flow lamination.

These types of deposits are best dated by the material immediately above and below the deposit in question - so you get a range.

[Mike Darancette]

Take the case of a hypothetical ash vent in the Long Valley Caldera (Mammoth area).

The Bishop Tuff and around Mono Lake is less than 50 miles from the Long Valley Caldera so that smaller ash vents could have contributed to the deposits over time ie Inyo and Mono Craters. It would take a pretty large blast to expel tuff thousands of miles and those don't happen too often from one caldera.

I would be interested in knowing if and where they have found any welding in these deposits (Asia).

I have been going to the area around Crowley Lake, Mammoth Lakes and Bishop for over 45 years. I am not a Geologist but even as a kid I wondered why the area around Crowley Lake and the Owens River Gorge looked so weird.

[Dataman]

REVERSE CONE: Earlier epochs were much richer in species diversity. By comparison, our world is impoverished. This is devolution, not evolution.

Yes, we should be seeing species coming into existence by some unbalanced ratio of 4:1 or 10:1 or 100:1. Instead we are hearing that species are dying out at that rate.

If we can document species dying out at 100:1, where is the documented 1 coming into existence?

[null and void]

What a remarkable opportunity to see a snapshot of life as it existed at one short period of time over 100 mya.

Indeed, a paleo-pompeii...

[Dataman]

they also found the evolutionary link between primates and humans but they don't publicize it because it might upset some with religeous [sic] mythology that refutes that possibility

Good logic. The evos found their links-- many times:
Nebraska man
Piltdown man
Orce man
Java man
Lucy
Homo habilis
etc. etc. etc.